PSA: Don't shoot a Roman Candle at a cop...

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: MacBaine

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Mill
I don't know. I'd think it'd be a judgment call you wouldn't want to make. I'd err to caution and probably not use a firearm in the case.

/me shoots at bradruth with a Roman Candle 😛

*Bang*

Of course I'd try something lower on the scale, but if I couldn't get close enough with the OC or ASP, someone's gettin' shot.

Kinda off subject... but I was under the impression you were a reserve officer.. IE no gun, not actually dispatched to calls, etc. That's how it is around me though, in IL, correct me if I am mistaken.

You're mistaken. I *am* a Reserve Officer, but up here we have full police powers. The only differences are we don't work full time, don't work alone, and don't get paid. The power of Reserves varies from state to state.

While this career isn't about the money ( <- military, LE future), I don't see the logic behind having non-paid, full officers. That just has lawsuit and abuse written all over it... not to mention the getting-shot factor.

I can understand the necessity for such a thing in North Dakota (picturing a smaller, more isolated town or something), don't get me wrong, it's probably just a culture thing... you wouldn't even think about something like that over here.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
While this career isn't about the money ( <- military, LE future), I don't see the logic behind having non-paid, full officers. That just has lawsuit and abuse written all over it... not to mention the getting-shot factor.

I can understand the necessity for such a thing in North Dakota (picturing a smaller, more isolated town or something), don't get me wrong, it's probably just a culture thing... you wouldn't even think about something like that over here.

We get a lot of training &amp; qualification (not quite as much as the full-timers, but we're definitely trained), so we're covered legally. We're here to assist the full-timers, and we can be invaluable during busy hours. There's no need for a second unit if one can't be freed up, because backup is right there in the car when we're on regular patrol. Plus we do a lot of special functions that allows patrol to be freed up to do their usual duties.

I work for a Municipal PD that employs 75 full-time Officers &amp; 9 Reserves. We serve a city of over 50,000 people plus a 13,000+ campus (they have their own PD as well, but we work together).

I'm still in college, so I can't work full-time right now. This is the best opportunity that I could have possibly come across, since I can get my foot in the door, start my career, and get some serious training &amp; OTJ experience.

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: MacBaine
While this career isn't about the money ( <- military, LE future), I don't see the logic behind having non-paid, full officers. That just has lawsuit and abuse written all over it... not to mention the getting-shot factor.

I can understand the necessity for such a thing in North Dakota (picturing a smaller, more isolated town or something), don't get me wrong, it's probably just a culture thing... you wouldn't even think about something like that over here.

We get a lot of training &amp; qualification (not quite as much as the full-timers, but we're definitely trained), so we're covered legally. We're here to assist the full-timers, and we can be invaluable during busy hours. There's no need for a second unit if one can't be freed up, because backup is right there in the car when we're on regular patrol. Plus we do a lot of special functions that allows patrol to be freed up to do their usual duties.

I work for a Municipal PD that employs 75 full-time Officers &amp; 9 Reserves. We serve a city of over 50,000 people plus a 13,000+ campus (they have their own PD as well, but we work together).

I'm still in college, so I can't work full-time right now. This is the best opportunity that I could have possibly come across, since I can get my foot in the door, start my career, and get some serious training &amp; OTJ experience.

I have to say that is still really unheard of.... employing college kids (I am assuming you are of college age, correct me) as fully sworn officers? That's the only place I have ever heard of that happening. Cool nonetheless, but really bizzarre.

 

[MacBaine]

Also... I believe you were hired in March sometime... when did you have time to attend the academy? Did you just go at the beginning of summer?

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
I have to say that is still really unheard of.... employing college kids (I am assuming you are of college age, correct me) as fully sworn officers? That's the only place I have ever heard of that happening. Cool nonetheless, but really bizzarre.

Yeah, I'm 20 years old. It's not common at all--there's one other Reserve that's still in college (about 22-23), one in his mid-upper 20's, one in his 40s, and a couple in their 50s/60s. I got hired alongside a 30-something y/o Military Police Officer. I've stayed out of trouble my whole life &amp; really demonstrated maturity &amp; honesty, which is what got me hired (according to my T.O., who was on the interview panel).

There were 100 applicants for Reserve &amp; full-time and two of us got hired as Reserves (I think they hired 3 full-timers as well), so it wasn't easy getting on.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: MacBaine
Also... I believe you were hired in March sometime... when did you have time to attend the academy? Did you just go at the beginning of summer?

I was officially hired April 1st &amp; began training on April 20th. We don't attend the academy as Reserves. Instead we train using the ND POST Part-Time Peace Officers Correspondence Course, which is basically "academy light." It's most of the classroom stuff crunched down a bit and then the department takes care of our practical training (Firearms, ASP, traffic stops, CPR/AED, NCIC, etc). I have about a month left for training.

 

[styrafoam]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Mill

Originally posted by: bradruth

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: bradruth
Yeah, if that happened to me someone would get GLOCKED.

And you would be out of a job and in prison....but considering the kind of late night activities you seem to like that may be OK with you 😉....HAHAHAHAHA

I'm joking, so don't shoot me!!!!!

Actually that would be justified. We can use deadly force if someone has a blunt weapon &amp; is threatening with it, let alone something that shoots flame/sparks at you.

I don't know. I'd think it'd be a judgment call you wouldn't want to make. I'd err to caution and probably not use a firearm in the case.

/me shoots at bradruth with a Roman Candle 😛

/me shoots at bradruth with Nebor Candle

Dud fireworks are a drag 🙁 😛