PSA don't go posting confidential comments on the neighborhood discussion board

Jan 18, 2001
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Cliff's:
1) Elderly woman is looking for affordable snow removal.
2) Neighbor #1 solicits help via neighborhood discussion thread on internets.
3) Neighbor #2 mistakenly posts to the entire group a warning to Neighbor#1 that Elderly Woman is prone to litigation and may not be as poor as she says.
4) Neighbor #2 posts an apology for the public reply... IMO he/she didn't really say malicious, but was rather just being brutally honest.
5) Alderperson jumps in and confirms that EW is pretty difficult with lots of examples.


This was posted verbatim (I removed the names) on my neighborhoods yahoo discussion thread:

Hi AXXXX. Think about you so often. How are those cute kids?

I'm wondering if we're talking about MXXXX PXXXXXX who lives next to us. I would only say this to you, not the general public, but you want to be careful when dealing with her. She pulls the "I'm poor " card pretty often. Even got a non-profit group to redo her roof. Then sued them when they didn't do it the way she wanted. Don't think she has all her faculties anymore. This makes me sound like a pretty awful neighbor, but I've just seen her milk the system one too many times, and don't want to see anyone else get sucked in.

Must be fun with two "believers" in the house this Christmas!

CXXXX


UPDATE:

Alder from the City has jumped into the discussion and fired both barrels at Elderly Woman. I think this person must have some pretty serious mental health issues.... its quite sad actually... Here is the Alderperson's posting:

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Dear Friends & Neighbors,

It troubles me to see this sad situation continues right under our watch. I do hope this unique situation won't affect our genuine concerns & willingness to assist other elderly neighbors in this community.

If this is indeed the same M.P. who lives in the yellow ranch house with the U driveway on Parkway, we have been scammed by her, again and again! This retired UW professor has sufficient resources to maintain her living comfortably. However, her mental conditions have been so clouded that she chooses to fabricate miserable, imaginary scenarios to abuse people's trust and exploit their kindness.

Within the last 2 years, M.P. has been calling me & my husband Dave for help, endlessly. Seeing her deplorable living condition and believing in her words we have tried to assist in many different ways, However, it turned out MP would rather con others than making any reasonable change to improve her deplorable condition.

I have consulted with Capt. Jay of West Police Station who is well-aware of this case. In fact, M.P. has exhausted Police Helpline to a point that a special officer has been assigned to handle her numerous calls and keep watch on her on a regular basis since last spring. Street Department also informed me M.P. has repeatedly contested and got away with paying city tickets!

I have sought professional advice and requested assistance for M.P. through numerous agencies: City Public Health, Senior Services, Aging Coalition, Dane Co. Mental Health, even with WSJ reporter Dean Mosiman ..all in vain! As long as MP decides to continue her way, nobody can do anything but watch her deteriorate, until disaster finally strikes!

I truly don't want to give up on M.P. and watch her inflicting harms on herself. (Nobody should judge a person who has lost sound judgment). M.P. is too incompetent to make the best decisions for herself, but as long as there is no family member to intervene on her behalf & M.P. refused to yield Power of Attorney to one, we are only outsiders who are not allowed to do much. This sounds heartless and unacceptable but such is the reality of our legal system and the way personal rights should be upheld. This frustrates me to no end, I fear one day we all will learn of the bad news, too late!

Joan Horinek, Sister Doris, Sister Mary F. H., Becky Jenn, Officer Justine H...and many other kind hearted neighbors are well aware of this desperate situation. I don't bear M.P. any grudge or have any intention to reveal negative things about her. However, it's my duty to share some facts so others won't have to be exploited by M.P., again!

My sincere apologies!

Alder XXXXXX
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jagec

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Some people really don't understand how the internet works.

I have to wonder if they're as stupid in real life. "Hi John, did Dave ever find out that we were responsible for burning down his house? Oh, hi Dave...no, that comment was addressed to John, therefore you couldn't hear it."
 

Riceninja

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your neighbourhood has an online discussion board? where do you live, seoul or tokyo?
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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doesn't topix.net have area discussion boards for... everywhere?
 

Squisher

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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Originally posted by: Riceninja
your neighbourhood has an online discussion board? where do you live, seoul or tokyo?

My HOA has a private yahoo group, but only 27 families have used it out of the 117 in the subdivision.

 

Descartes

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: Riceninja
your neighbourhood has an online discussion board? where do you live, seoul or tokyo?

My HOA has a private yahoo group, but only 27 families have used it out of the 117 in the subdivision.

Same here, and we're only 21 families though we all use it.
 

ChaoZ

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Apr 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
sounds like M.P. has some suing to do for slander

Not when it's true. Btw, that discussion board sounds awesome.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
sounds like M.P. has some suing to do for slander

Raise your hand if you are a lawyer or know the law well... not so fast MikeyIs4Dcats








 

Descartes

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
sounds like M.P. has some suing to do for slander

I'm no lawyer, but I'm 99.99% certain that doesn't constitute slander. I think it has to first be false with intent to defame a person. This is clearly neither.
 

imported_Imp

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
If this is indeed the same M.P. who lives in the yellow ranch house with the U driveway on Parkway, we have been scammed by her, again and again! This retired UW professor has sufficient resources to maintain her living comfortably. However, her mental conditions have been so clouded that she chooses to fabricate miserable, imaginary scenarios to abuse people's trust and exploit their kindness.

Sounds like someone I know. She constantly complains about people breaking into her apartment, then proceeding to steal her salt and milk. One week later, said items turn up under her bed.

Also, she enjoys barricading the front door to prevent this. Locksmiths have been called multiple times. Her door has been 'breached' a few times professionally, cause she couldn't get back inside after using a 2"x4" to wedge it shut; she somehow does this from the outside, which amazes me. Recently, she has turned to blocking the door with the couch, and now she's complaining about back pains. Ah, old people.

 

kranky

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: jagec
Some people really don't understand how the internet works.

I have to wonder if they're as stupid in real life. "Hi John, did Dave ever find out that we were responsible for burning down his house? Oh, hi Dave...no, that comment was addressed to John, therefore you couldn't hear it."

Reminds me of the person who posted on the Yahoo answers board something like "I can't view my online statement at MegaBank using <login-id> and <password>."

Except the login-id and password were plainly typed out.

 
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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
sounds like M.P. has some suing to do for slander

I'm no lawyer, but I'm 99.99% certain that doesn't constitute slander. I think it has to first be false with intent to defame a person. This is clearly neither.

those comments are definitely defamatory, as to the veracity of them, we cannot say, but I would suspect M.P. would disagree with her assessment. I was incorrect in my original post in that in my haste I said slander, when it would fall under libel.
 

Descartes

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
sounds like M.P. has some suing to do for slander

I'm no lawyer, but I'm 99.99% certain that doesn't constitute slander. I think it has to first be false with intent to defame a person. This is clearly neither.

those comments are definitely defamatory, as to the veracity of them, we cannot say, but I would suspect M.P. would disagree with her assessment. I was incorrect in my original post in that in my haste I said slander, when it would fall under libel.

Still, with my sophomoric understanding of the legal implications of both, I believe the motivation has to be to present false information.

Neither of the posts mentioned by OP are out to defame this woman in any way. They were cautionary statements for others. Maybe I'm going overboard with this analogy, but to me this would be like saying a post cautioning parents around a known sex offender would somehow be libel. If the person wasn't a sex offender, then sue the hell out of them; likewise, if this elderly woman didn't defraud people, then she should respond similarly.