PSA - Do Not buy laundry detergent in 5 gallons buckets, they are likely to be faked

Red Squirrel

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There is actually a black market for laundry detergent, I always thought that was weird. Maybe this is a result of that, ex: people buying it out, then refilling it with fake to resell or something. Wonder if some kind of drug uses it. But it's not like it's a controlled product, you can proabably clear the shelves of a store and nobody is really going to look at you funny like if you were buying up all the sudo at a pharmacy.
 

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I saw that news story too on ABC, apparently drug dealers find it more appealing to sell counterfeit laundry detergent that sell marijuana or cocaine, since the penalty for selling counterfeit laundry detergent isn't 40-years in an ass pounding prison. BTW: Tide or Gain doesn't sell there stuff in 5-gallon products, so you know it's fake. Here is a guy on ebay selling Fake tide.
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2 sold... Jeebus fuck people are dumb as a box of rocks.

$70 for 20lbs doesn't even sound that amazing enough to trust some random seller with 1 feedback on Fleabay
 

holden j caufield

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didn't look at the link, what's shipping on that? The dimensions seem very non standard? And $70 doesn't seem cheap at all. I think there are somethings to save money on but buying detergent on ebay would not be worth saving a few bucks on.
 

flexy

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2 sold... Jeebus fuck people are dumb as a box of rocks.

$70 for 20lbs doesn't even sound that amazing enough to trust some random seller with 1 feedback on Fleabay

I don't know what Tide normally costs, but why do you call people buying this "dumb"?

I know a lot of stuff you buy from China is fake, but up until this very moment I didn't even know there is a market for fake laundry detergent. So let's say I go on ebay and look for a good deal on Tide, and I see this listing...and let's say the buyer assumes its genuine and that it would save him some bucks over store-bought...why is the buyer "dumb"?
 

waggy

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$70? wow expensive
at least here people charge $30 for a "tide" clone.
 

Svnla

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Real (not fake) Tide liquid is about $10 per 100 liquid oz around here when it is on sale.

The pic from Pardus is weird. Look at the label, not completely in English.
 
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Real (not fake) Tide liquid is about $10 per 100 liquid oz around here.

The pic from Pardus is weird. Look at the label, not completely in English.

So, I should aim to knock over a Tide delivery truck and not the liquor truck. Gotcha.
 

HeXen

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My wife gets the 5 gallons of gain for $40 but ours doesn't have any fancy labeling. Smells like laundry soap, looks and feels like it and cleans as good as anything else we've bought from the store. Meh

This kind of reminds me of back in the day when the black kids would sell bottles of liquid soap that was mostly water, marketing it as some kind of super cleaner for everything and charging $5.
So the black market soap thing has been around for quite a while, at least since the 90's that I'm aware of.
 

MrPickins

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There is actually a black market for laundry detergent, I always thought that was weird. Maybe this is a result of that, ex: people buying it out, then refilling it with fake to resell or something. Wonder if some kind of drug uses it. But it's not like it's a controlled product, you can proabably clear the shelves of a store and nobody is really going to look at you funny like if you were buying up all the sudo at a pharmacy.

http://nymag.com/news/features/tide-detergent-drugs-2013-1/

Tide detergent: Works on tough stains. Can now also be traded for crack. A case study in American ingenuity, legal and otherwise.
 

holden j caufield

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I don't know what Tide normally costs, but why do you call people buying this "dumb"?

I know a lot of stuff you buy from China is fake, but up until this very moment I didn't even know there is a market for fake laundry detergent. So let's say I go on ebay and look for a good deal on Tide, and I see this listing...and let's say the buyer assumes its genuine and that it would save him some bucks over store-bought...why is the buyer "dumb"?

I think the seller has very low number of feedback. Also I buy golf clubs, mini pc, a drone, or xbox live etc. I take some chances on those but they won't affect my health if they are fake. Ebay isn't a smart place to buy stuff that your body consumes or your skin would be in constant contact with.

You probably wouldn't buy vitamins, sunscreens/lotions, condoms, edibles, etc and you definitely wouldn't buy those things off of someone with only a few feedback.

I made the mistake of buying a phone cover off of ebay. The real one from amazon was $4 more and still made in china but the fake one on ebay was made of a stiffer plastic and rubber, smelled worse, and didn't fit over the edges.
 

flexy

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I did some "research" on this now (don't know, must be bored), Tide does INDEED sell 5gal buckets "overseas", in Vietnam. The powder with the "Chuyen Dung" label.

So..this is actually not fake, but genuine Tide, except not made for the US market. At least according to what I just read on a blog.
 

flexy

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. BTW: Tide or Gain doesn't sell there stuff in 5-gallon products, so you know it's fake. Here is a guy on ebay selling Fake tide.
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Nope, Tide DOES sell exactly these buckets in VIETNAM.
 

holden j caufield

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Would there be less standards in vietnam vs usa. Is there a Tide vietnam formula that isn't sellable in the US for certain reasons?
 

GagHalfrunt

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More important PSA: Do not buy laundry detergent in 5 gallon buckets because then you have to do a fuckload of laundry.
 

waggy

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My wife gets the 5 gallons of gain for $40 but ours doesn't have any fancy labeling. Smells like laundry soap, looks and feels like it and cleans as good as anything else we've bought from the store. Meh

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The fundraiser stuff? My kids are selling that shit now. $35 for a 5 gallon bucket. I got one last year and it did a great job.

From what i read that stuff is the same as tide. They contract them to make it and they can then sell the leftover stuff. but can't say it's tide. just tide like..but its made in the same factory.

whatever. it still works great.
 

Red Squirrel

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Another thought that is scary is when the TPP passes, crap like this fake detergent is going to be sold in stores too. Right now stores can source out from reliable sources and generally when you buy stuff locally as opposed to online you know you're getting the real thing. When buying on Ebay or Amazon it's a risk you're willing to take that it might be some fake thing, and in the case of electronics/electrical probably not UL approved either. With TPP however, all that stuff will be getting sold locally too, and countries won't be allowed to regulate it.
 

flexy

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Interesting:

http://www.click2houston.com/news/is-discount-tide-as-effective-as-regular-tide

They are genuine legitimate products made by reputable companies overseas, intended for consumers in those countries. But companies like Escobedo's buy them there and resell them here to make a profit.

"Just because you're getting a good price doesn't mean you're getting a good deal," warned Charles Steuart, of U.S. Customs & Border Protection.

The agency would stop goods from coming into U.S. ports if they were not allowed. Even though the Tide is imported legally, Steuart said buyers should beware.

"It may not work as well. The formulation may be different," said Steuart.

So what's the difference? We put put them to the test. We bought four brand new creamy white towels just to stain them all up. We're talking tough stains like coffee and melted chocolate. We even smeared the towels down the sides of a dirty car. We washed one set with Tide with Downy, made in the U.S., and the other with the Vietnam Tide.

The results? The American Tide removed all of the stains. The discount gray market product did not. The detergent also left a ton of sudsy residue inside our washer.

Proctor & Gamble then told KPRC 2 it's likely because the product is designed for hand washing clothes -- how it's still done in most of Vietnam.

Just my amateur opinion here, but if it left a "sudsy residue", it's likely that the Vietnam tide is made for softer water, and the US tide takes into account that US water is "harder", this would explain the residue and poor performance.
 
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madoka

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I go to Hispanic/Mexican swap meets and you see this stuff there all the time.
 

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Another thought that is scary is when the TPP passes, crap like this fake detergent is going to be sold in stores too. Right now stores can source out from reliable sources and generally when you buy stuff locally as opposed to online you know you're getting the real thing. When buying on Ebay or Amazon it's a risk you're willing to take that it might be some fake thing, and in the case of electronics/electrical probably not UL approved either. With TPP however, all that stuff will be getting sold locally too, and countries won't be allowed to regulate it.
I'm not so sure that they'll be able to sell it branded as Tide though, will they (if it's not Tide?) I'm sure Proctor and Gamble would have something to say about that. So, we end up with more variety on the market, and people will be able to decide for themselves which product is better. And/or, which product is over-priced (but supports spending 10's of millions of dollars on advertising, race car sponsorships, etc.)
 

Slew Foot

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I did some "research" on this now (don't know, must be bored), Tide does INDEED sell 5gal buckets "overseas", in Vietnam. The powder with the "Chuyen Dung" label.

Good luck getting Americans to wash their clothes with something that has "dung" on the label.