PSA: CRZ Drivers, it's just not as quick as you want it to be

[Eli]

You know what's ironic about this?

Honda CRZ Hybrid - 122hp 128tq. 39mpg HWY
Honda Civic Gas - 140hp 128tq. 39mpg HWY. Not to mentioned having more cargo room, seats 4 people, and no $8k batteries to replace

8k?

Try 4k.

 

[ShawnD1]

4k is still a lot. That's what it would cost to replace my transmission. From the dealership. Labor included.

 

[Eli]

Yeah, I know. That should be 6-8+ years down the road though. And those are stealership prices.

There are companies that rebuild batteries for much cheaper than that, typically $1000 depending on how many bad subpacks you have.

 

[ElFenix]

another thing... they went from CRX to CRZ. what happened to the CRY?

that's what you do when you see the accord crosstour?

 

[Throckmorton]

You know what's ironic about this?

Honda CRZ Hybrid - 122hp 128tq. 39mpg HWY
Honda Civic Gas - 140hp 128tq. 39mpg HWY. Not to mentioned having more cargo room, seats 4 people, and no $8k batteries to replace

So you don't think city gas mileage matters?

 

[ShawnD1]

So you don't think city gas mileage matters?

USA doesn't have cities. Everyone knows this.


Clarkson and Penn & Teller only looked at highway mileage as well when reviewing the Prius. I drive about 18-19k miles per year, almost all of them are city miles, and my gas mileage is very close to my government's "city" mileage estimates. I don't live in the US so that's why I have city mileage. I live in a light residential section of a city

 

[Doppel]

I think Honda batteries are known to be worse than Toyota (sure seems that way), but replacement costs are way overblown in any case. Toyota offers 10 year/100k warranty on theirs (and very few people need that). Honda does 8 years,80k on current insight.

 

[NutBucket]

It's all the same in CA (warranties that is).

 

[Eli]

Toyota's prismatic NiMH cells are more robust than Honda's "D" size NiMH cells.

The downside of the prismatic cells is that they need force to keep the cases from bulging under charge, while the cylindrical NiMH cells do not.

 

[Doppel]

It's all the same in CA.

Which may be even more, I'm not positive but recall hearing that the battery warranty on certain states including CA is more like 15 years/150k and that includes the hybrid power train in general.

 

[NutBucket]

"D size" eh? Hmmm, might have to look into expansion

 

[ShawnD1]

"D size" eh? Hmmm, might have to look into expansion

 

[Loop2kil]

what's the point of the CRZ again?

it's not fast (122hp)
it's not that fuel efficient (35ish mpg)
it's not practical (small 2 seater)
it's not cheap ($20k+)

this car doesn't do anything well, Honda clearly designed this for idiots.

The Apple of the car world?
<<prepares to be sternly talked to by Apple lovers>>

 

[ShawnD1]

The Apple of the car world?
<<prepares to be sternly talked to by Apple lovers>>

Honda Element is the Apple of the car world. It does everything you need, it's cute, it's unique, but it's really slow and super expensive for no apparent reason.

 

[Eli]

Kinda, but more like this:

 

[BassBomb]

I don't flog to keep around in my slow Accord