I somewhat disagree with your details, but if you're referring to straight survival then yes, Les is a better guide.Originally posted by: dainthomas
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.Originally posted by: Ns1
building a raft or shelter =/= hardOriginally posted by: dainthomas
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.Originally posted by: Anubis
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different varietyOriginally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
+1 until someone beats that record, he wins the hardguy award.Originally posted by: adairusmc
PSA: Bear Grylls is harder than Les Stroud
:laugh:
Joseph Kittinger is harder than both of those guys, every Navy Seal and SAS solider, and Chesty Puller combined.
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.Originally posted by: dainthomas
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.Originally posted by: Ns1
building a raft or shelter =/= hardOriginally posted by: dainthomas
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.Originally posted by: Anubis
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different varietyOriginally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
eh. The alternative argument is taht since bear DOES have all those things, he has the time to do all the ridiculous shit that he does. I mean when you factor in that Les DOES have to come back to pick up all his shit, that cuts out like half the day.Originally posted by: umbrella39
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.Originally posted by: dainthomas
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.Originally posted by: Ns1
building a raft or shelter =/= hardOriginally posted by: dainthomas
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.Originally posted by: Anubis
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different varietyOriginally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
Because it's more fun to debate vs "will the plane fly?"Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
I don't understand why people insist on comparing these two guys. One of them is a survivalist. The other is a guy who just finds ridiculously dangerous / cool things to do and films himself doing them.
When I see survivor man squeeze water out of elephant shit, or scoop out the contents of a dead camels stomach and drink it then I'll say he is harder than Bear.Originally posted by: umbrella39
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.Originally posted by: dainthomas
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.Originally posted by: Ns1
building a raft or shelter =/= hardOriginally posted by: dainthomas
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.Originally posted by: Anubis
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different varietyOriginally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
exactly my point. les is an idiot, the show would be 10x better if he could just do the show without complainin about the stupid cameras the whole timeOriginally posted by: umbrella39
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.
well that's just stupid. The production is just annoying and bad and it's a waste of time for Les Stroud if only to prove a point that he's alone. I honestly couldn't give a shit.Originally posted by: umbrella39
Indeed. Let's not forget that Les has to film every freaking shot you see on the show. So when you see him going down a river in a canoe from the shoreline, it is because he stopped, got the gear out, set it up, rolled filmed, walked back up stream, floated past to get the shot, stops, goes back to get cameras, and continues. Let's see Mr. G do that and worry about his next meal, fire, and shelter for the night. There is no comparing the two shows imo. One is pure entertainment and the other is reality. One guy carries all his stuff on his back, the other has a crew doing it and filming it for him. It's like comparing the UFC to the WWE. I am not saying that Bear couldn't do all those things, I am sure he could. But the fact remains he isn't doing those things on his show and until he does, Les is imo the harder of the two.Originally posted by: dainthomas
You enjoy it because it's entertaining. If I want to watch someone doing something stupid I'll watch Fear Factor or Jackass. If I want to see how NOT to be stupid in the wilderness, I'll watch Survivorman.Originally posted by: Ns1
building a raft or shelter =/= hardOriginally posted by: dainthomas
What was his "safety team" doing while he was being stalked by that jaguar? Those guys are miles away. They also don't run to the store to get food for him or help him build rafts and shelters.Originally posted by: Anubis
and les has a fing "safty team" that is always near by, bear has a film crew.... same fruit different varietyOriginally posted by: Throckmorton
Bear fakes his show...
I mean do you seriously think that Bear can't build a shelter? After the x-teenth shelter WTF is the point. I'd rather see the man do something stupid. Like jump into quicksand. Or zero degree water.
yabut she was knocked outOriginally posted by: TheKub
Ewa Wisnierska kicks both their asses. She flew 32600ft (just shy of 10,000m) in an UNpowered paraglider.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOriginally posted by: WingZero94
Bear is UBER HARD. Check out this harsh environment Man vs. GIRLS GONE WILD
OMG YES! That's brilliant.Originally posted by: Cattlegod
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAOriginally posted by: WingZero94
Bear is UBER HARD. Check out this harsh environment Man vs. GIRLS GONE WILD
OMG they did a good job with that, hahah!
someone posted before you.Originally posted by: hdeck
for all you bear fans, college humor put up a funny parody yesterday. probably NSFW: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1800887
good thing i didn't post a new thread about it then!Originally posted by: Juno
someone posted before you.Originally posted by: hdeck
for all you bear fans, college humor put up a funny parody yesterday. probably NSFW: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1800887![]()