I used SLI once or twice in the 7800/8800 era and never touched it again. It took way too much work to make games work properly with it. It always worked with the 3 or 4 marquee games of the time and had bugs (microstuttering) or minimal performance increase in everything else.
It might be useful for VR now though, since each eye is rendered separately anyway, but would need a big push from Nvidia and developers.
It might be useful for VR now though, since each eye is rendered separately anyway, but would need a big push from Nvidia and developers.
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dedicated VR is practically dead.
I dont care what anyone says, you don't retire VR units only 1-2 yrs after release and call it a success.
Rift -> Dead
Rift S -> Dead
Samsung HMD Odessey -> Dead
HTC Vive - Practically dead... HTC itself is almost completely dead.
HP- reverb - Also dying.
Valve Index - Practically dead The only thing index had was 100% compatibility with Alyx ... the halflife 3 (if valve could count past 2 that is)
The only VR headset which may move forward is the Quest, but i am done with Occulus and Facebook gear.
Its all honestly GARBAGE, made for young hipsters.
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DeathReborn
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Price has always been what keeps VR niche, until they wholesale VR setups (headset, controllers/towers) for sub $200 it will always be a deadend. It also doesn't help that the GPU to drive the headset is OOS or scalped to the moon.
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That's what you really need that 3090 for.
nonono.. its for programing purposes...
yeah... thats right.... programing purposes... i did not buy this gpu for epeen.... *watches nose grow*
The Quest 2 is a single stand alone unit.
It has a type C connector so you can connect it to a PC over usb 3.2
But that is beyond the point... VR headsets are very uncomfortable to wear more then a few hours... Also they can get really nasty and smelly, from the sweat while wearing one, which is why i have a box of those disposable face guards to use.
Also they leave you with racoon eyes for 30 min after you game'd on it.
I find some VR games make me really sweaty, while others don't bother me at all. The worst one by far was Superhot. Excellent game, but I have to take the headset off every hour or so and wipe down both my face and the foam cover, and get cramps sometimes. Somehow the quick reflexes you need and sense of tension in this game is beyond anything else. Never had this issue in Alyx, Overload or anything else and can play them for hours with no trouble. I see people doing gym workouts in VR, which I might have trouble with too.
DeathReborn
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I get that some are standalone, but anything from Facebook involves selling ones soul. At work we get sent demo kits of VR headsets to try and sell to clients (businesses basically) and some of the staff try them out, I have yet to encounter one that doesn't make me nauseous. Sweat being the least of the bad smell problems there
. My younger brother has a Valve Index but he's also stuck on a 1080 Ti so he doesn't use it much, he's desperate for a Ampere card but can't buy one lol.
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I ended up liking VR a lot (which I didn't expect). I've had some magical moments, like that time when this group of maybe 6 or 7 guys went upstairs to play Russian Roulette. They were hiding from me and everyone else so they wouldn't be bothered. So I walk up there and ask if they've seen moonbogg (I had been terrorizing them previously). No sign of moonbogg, so OK, good then. Let's play russian roulette. I excuse myself and walk down the stairs for a moment (so they wouldn't hear my pull the pin on the grenade), walk back up and roll it across the floor right in the middle of them all. I wait...BOOM CHAOS! Half of them die and I clean up the rest with a pump shotgun and laugh my literal ass off, and I mean clean off.
No flat screen gaming experience has ever come close to that, not even a little. I am convinced that VR has a bright future, but adoption has been slow. As much as people don't like facebook, they are the catalyst that will revolutionize development and adoption of VR. Others will compete with their own stand-alone headsets. I love it. Also, the Valve Index is hugely popular. It was on the steam best seller list multiple times in a row. They couldn't make enough of them.
No flat screen gaming experience has ever come close to that, not even a little. I am convinced that VR has a bright future, but adoption has been slow. As much as people don't like facebook, they are the catalyst that will revolutionize development and adoption of VR. Others will compete with their own stand-alone headsets. I love it. Also, the Valve Index is hugely popular. It was on the steam best seller list multiple times in a row. They couldn't make enough of them.
cytg111
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Current state of affairs Scandinavia
3080 - is right out. Just not available and no telling when they'll be back in stock.
3080ti is available for prices ~3.000.- usd .. average a little higher.
THIS IS INSANE.
Bitcoin just took another nose dive with the news out of China.
If I had business intellect I'd buy a 3080ti with some of the btc I have left. It seems like an equation that balances it self out.
3080 - is right out. Just not available and no telling when they'll be back in stock.
3080ti is available for prices ~3.000.- usd .. average a little higher.
THIS IS INSANE.
Bitcoin just took another nose dive with the news out of China.
If I had business intellect I'd buy a 3080ti with some of the btc I have left. It seems like an equation that balances it self out.
Golgatha
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I figure the yields on chips for these cards are good and given the much, much higher MSRP on the Ti variants of the 3070 and 3080, means we won't see regular 3070 and 3080 cards back in stock for quite some time. That said, I've not seen stock for any cards in the last couple of weeks anyway.
What I like most about VR is it feels new and fresh. Developers (often small/indie ones) are trying out different things and seeing what works. Not all of it works but it reminds me of regular PC gaming 20-30 years ago.
If it does catch on, it could also justify buying expensive new video cards in the future, which regular flatscreen games rarely do anymore. I could see Nvidia/AMD subsidizing the development of new VR games like FB does. How else would they get you to upgrade your 3090 to a $4000 4090?
Fanatical Meat
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Ajay
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Eh, I've given up on this generation. Maybe when NV's 4000 series comes out, I'll buy a 3080/Ti if the prices drop enough.
QueBert
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Was that a buy it now price? I'm seeing $1,200 for 3070's on Ebay when I just looked. While I'll admit even $800 for a $500 cards crazy, right now that would be a steal compared to the rest on there. Hell, the pre owned 3070ti's are over $800 on auctions that don't have BIN, so I'm thinking even used ones will go for like a G
Golgatha
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Regular 3070s are going for $1100+. You're looking at $1200+ currently for a 3070 ti most likely.
Ajay
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Wow, somebody who 'won'! You can probably just turn around a sell it for a nice mark up if you don't have a current use for it.
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