PS5/XboxSeriesX performance on PC! (Console Killer)

[Gizmo j]

A 'RTX2070Super' and a 'Ryzen 7 2700x' is the cheapest combo that would give you next gen performance.

The XboxSeriesX has a GPU with 12 Tflops made by AMD.
The PS5 has a GPU with 10.28 Tflops made by AMD.

First you should know that Nvidia has about 40% better performance when compared to a AMD with the same amount of Tflops.

The Radeon V11 has 14.2 Tflops but the RTX2070Super is both cheaper and more powerful.

As for the CPU both of the next gen consoles have a 8 core CPU and the cheapest 8 core with decent performance is the Ryzen 7 2700X.

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[purbeast0]

Gaming computers are more powerful than consoles?

Welcome to 2000.

 

[LikeLinus]

We get it.

1. You don't like consoles. Even felt the need to create multiple post on it. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/why-do-gaming-consoles-even-exist.2581372/

2. Wrong Forum.

3. You're just not intelligent enough to understand the advantages of console gaming. Just because you have a different opinion, doesn't mean that others are wrong. Both PC and Console gaming have their place.

Lastly, you cannot build a gaming rig with a RTX 2070 Super and 2700x for the cost of a console. Hell, that video card alone cost approximately what those consoles will be.

 

[Newbian]

Try here:

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[SteveGrabowski]

A 'RTX2070Super' and a 'Ryzen 7 2700x' is the cheapest combo that would give you next gen performance.

The XboxSeriesX has a GPU with 12 Tflops made by AMD.
The PS5 has a GPU with 10.28 Tflops made by AMD.

First you should know that Nvidia has about 40% better performance when compared to a AMD with the same amount of Tflops.

The Radeon V11 has 14.2 Tflops but the RTX2070Super is both cheaper and more powerful.

As for the CPU both of the next gen consoles have a 8 core CPU and the cheapest 8 core with decent performance is the Ryzen 7 2700X.

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admin allisolm

You're comparing a previous generation AMD architecture to a current gen Nvidia one. It's not 40% difference for current gen vs current gen. Take the RX 5700 and RTX 2060 Super, which are largely similarly performing 1440p/4k gpus. In techpowerup's most recent testsuite (for their RX 5600 XT review) they have the 5700 at P1=108% of the performance and RTX 2060 Super at P2=113% of the performance of the 5600 XT at 4k. Divide the performance of the 5700 by its TFLOPS T1=7.949 and the performance of the 2060S by its TFLOPS T2 = 7.181 to get ratios of performance per TFLOP as

R1 = P1/T1 = 13.5866 (for RX 5700)

R2 = P2/T2 = 15.736 (for RTX 2060S)

Thus we have

R2/R1 = 15.736/13.5866 = 1.1582

so that Turing seems to be around 16% faster per TFLOP than is Navi 1. Assuming no gain in performance per TFLOP for Navi 2 vs Navi 1, we'd end up with at 12TFLOPS XBox Series X Navi 2 gpu having a Turing equivalent of 12/1.16 = 10.3 TFLOPS, which is about 3% more than an RTX 2080.

 

[mikegg]

You're comparing a previous generation AMD architecture to a current gen Nvidia one. It's not 40% difference for current gen vs current gen. Take the RX 5700 and RTX 2060 Super, which are largely similarly performing 1440p/4k gpus. In techpowerup's most recent testsuite (for their RX 5600 XT review) they have the 5700 at P1=108% of the performance and RTX 2060 Super at P2=113% of the performance of the 5600 XT at 4k. Divide the performance of the 5700 by its TFLOPS T1=7.949 and the performance of the 2060S by its TFLOPS T2 = 7.181 to get ratios of performance per TFLOP as

R1 = P1/T1 = 13.5866 (for RX 5700)

R2 = P2/T2 = 15.736 (for RTX 2060S)

Thus we have

R2/R1 = 15.736/13.5866 = 1.1582

so that Turing seems to be around 16% faster per TFLOP than is Navi 1. Assuming no gain in performance per TFLOP for Navi 2 vs Navi 1, we'd end up with at 12TFLOPS XBox Series X Navi 2 gpu having a Turing equivalent of 12/1.16 = 10.3 TFLOPS, which is about 3% more than an RTX 2080.

Nice.

AMD also claims RDNA2 is 50% more powerful per watt than RDNA1 which is believable since RDNA1 feels like a rushed job.

The Zen2 processor in next-gen consoles is also much faster for gaming than a Zen+ based 2700x.

And you're getting a high-end NVME SSD drive in each console, especially the PS5 which is using tech not released on PC yet.

Plus console optimizations. You probably need the raw horsepower of a 3900x + 2080ti just to match the quality that next-gen consoles will provide. You're looking at a $2,000 computer to match maybe a $500-$600 consoles.

Yes, cross-platform games will always run better on a PC if you have the money for a high-end build.

But first-party games like God of War, Horizon, etc, look like the best PC games have to offer while only running on an underpowered PS4 Pro.

Next-gen consoles are a really good bang for the buck. I might pick up one.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Try getting games like Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, The new Spiderman Miles Morales game on a PC...

 

[DeathReborn]

Try getting games like Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, The new Spiderman Miles Morales game on a PC...

They might end up playable on PC via streaming.

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[cmdrdredd]

They might end up playable on PC via streaming.

PS Now | PlayStation-Spiele auf Abruf für PS5, PS4 oder PC

Mit PS Now erhältst du sofortigen Zugriff auf eine riesige Bibliothek mit PS4-, PS3- und PS2-Spielen, die du auf PS5, PS4 oder einen Windows-PC streamen oder auf deine PS4-Konsole herunterladen kannst.

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Streaming will never match the actual console or pc on your tv or monitor. The lag even with gigabit internet is bad. I’m pretty sensitive to input lag and streaming makes it worse.