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PS4 Pro - Any hope for future 4K HDR BluRay support?

Chaotic42

Chaotic42

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I'm toying with the idea of getting a PS4 Pro, but I'm reading that they don't have 4K BluRay support. I can't see a good reason for this, but I'm not Sony. Is there any hope for a PS4 Pro Plus or something which will support 4K HDR BluRay or is that asking too much?
 
I doubt it. I can't imagine they will have a major revision of the unit before the next generation console comes out. The next gen console may not even come with an optical drive.
 
HOOfan 1 said:
I doubt it. I can't imagine they will have a major revision of the unit before the next generation console comes out. The next gen console may not even come with an optical drive.
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Pretty much what I think he says here.

In today's market, it makes even less sense to sell game discs. Wouldn't be surprised if everything goes digital. Basically wipes out the secondary and rental market and allows Sony to control it all. Then they can push 4K players separately and not impact that market with the PS market.
 
Given the reaction that MS got for initially attempting to get rid of used games sales, I'm not really sure where people are getting the idea that Sony or MS will remove the optical drive next generation.
 
nitromullet said:
Given the reaction that MS got for initially attempting to get rid of used games sales, I'm not really sure where people are getting the idea that Sony or MS will remove the optical drive next generation.
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Digital sales have become much more prominent since the Xbox One launched. I'm pretty sure it is both Microsoft's and Sony's goal to go digital only in the near future. If not next generation, then the one after that.

We just have to hope that when they do go digital only, that it is digital download instead of streaming. Hopefully how much of a failure Playstation Now seems to be keeps streaming from being the future.
 
nitromullet said:
Given the reaction that MS got for initially attempting to get rid of used games sales, I'm not really sure where people are getting the idea that Sony or MS will remove the optical drive next generation.
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As I said, if it is not the next console it will more than likely be the one after. Digital download only to obtain games just makes business sense. It cuts tons of costs, they controller all distribution, and they control any aftermarket sales or rental markets. Right now when you buy a PS4 game you are paying the store, Sony, some marketing firm, the distribution company, and the developer company as well. There is a lot of hands taking pieces out of that pie. If the major consoles all move to digital download only then the all those hands in the middle disappear. Costs would go down as well as prices so long as there is competition among the major console makers.
 
I think that is one of the only reasons that Sony and Microsoft haven't gone all digital. Then again...what do Sony or Microsoft owe Gamestop? I guess there is a bit of marketing that Gamestop does for their games both on TV and in store.
 
HumblePie said:
As I said, if it is not the next console it will more than likely be the one after. Digital download only to obtain games just makes business sense. It cuts tons of costs, they controller all distribution, and they control any aftermarket sales or rental markets. Right now when you buy a PS4 game you are paying the store, Sony, some marketing firm, the distribution company, and the developer company as well. There is a lot of hands taking pieces out of that pie. If the major consoles all move to digital download only then the all those hands in the middle disappear. Costs would go down as well as prices so long as there is competition among the major console makers.
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Perhaps, but the gen after next is probably a decade or more out. It's possible that consumers may be more wiling to accept a console without physical media, which is the real hurdle for Sony/MS. I'm sure that gamers who can drop $400 for the Pro and whatever Scorpio is going to cost would have less issues going all digital delivery, but Sony/MS need to consider what people who buy a $250 PS4 Slim will go for. The reaction that MS initially received on the Xbox One clearly shows that their customers are NOT ready to make that leap yet, and whoever makes the first move to get rid of the optical drive can expect to take a hit in sales.
 
nitromullet said:
whoever makes the first move to get rid of the optical drive can expect to take a hit in sales.
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No optical drive on the Nintendo Switch 😉

and while that's a facetious response, it is the type of thing Nintendo would do. They like shooting themselves in the foot
 
The PS4 pro won't see 4k blueray support as part of a software patch unfortunately. Hevc decoding at 4k resolutions is actually too taxing for brunt cpu force. Unfortunately the PS4 cpu did not get any kind of upgrade so it lacks the new parts of AMD processors that gained hevc support. If they want, I imagine they could use a USB 3.0 dongle with another hdmi port on it. Seems convoluted but would work. It is a really stupid decision on sonys part and imo they rushed the PS4 pro for no reason.
 
HOOfan 1 said:
I think that is one of the only reasons that Sony and Microsoft haven't gone all digital. Then again...what do Sony or Microsoft owe Gamestop? I guess there is a bit of marketing that Gamestop does for their games both on TV and in store.
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Retailers have a lot of clout with developers and publishers because of the advertising they can put out. A lot of people wouldn't know about the new games coming out if they didn't walk by a giant standee in the mall outside Gamestop or see a display for the new games at Best-Buy etc. I'm against PSn and XBL being the only place to get games. Without competition you'll never get a good sale price. It will be like Nintendo games where a game that is 2 years old is still full price. At least with Retailers competiting on sales they can discount old titles to move stock and that benefits people who don't buy a lot of games when they are brand new. Plus I do kind of like having the box for certain titles. Really the only way it would make sense to go all digital is if there were ways to get the games from a retailer without a big download. I know some families who have a console but their location doesn't offer any real high speed internet. Downloading games via satellite doesn't work, so they just buy the disc for the kids. I've said before that it might be a cool idea to be able to buy a game digitally from a kiosk at the store and plug in a big enough USB thumb drive to it and get the game on there, then you just install it to your console. That way it's all digital but still allows retailers to sell the game and allows people without good internet connections to get games.
 
I don't know if I agree about the advertising, though there is a point to that. However, I definitely agree with the issue of sales. Even with physical copies to compete with, PSN and XBL can't be bothered to have decent sales even on par with those physical options, let alone Steam. I finally took to owning both consoles recently, XB1S and PS4P. If they went all digital, I'd go back to one. Game prices, for me, would probably about double, and I'm not interested in spending $40 on a year-old game during a "good" sale, nor do I have interest in the asinine DLC prices that never drop on those digital markets (I generally just wait for a GotY version). To hell with paying these companies more to screw us even harder. If MS and Sony can establish that their marketplaces can get closer to what Steam is, giving us decent sales year-round with bouts of great deals on occasion, I would support it, but begrudgingly (as so many games have little replay value, so I don't care to buy them digitally).

I've suggested the same thing in the past, going with USB drives. You get faster installs to the console, and the flash drive is reusable. They could push it as BYO physical media as well, so I could preferably walk in with my own external/flash storage, load it up with all my games at once, and walk out. Or, I could order online, they could load them up, then I can head over in a couple of hours. It's a solution, though not the best there could be, I suppose. The only problem is it might actually RAISE costs, if MS and Sony have to supply servers and storage to all these retailers, rather than chunks of plastic and discs.
 
The best deal I saw was Black Friday titanfall 2 and battlefield 1 deluxe bundle for $70. Other than that it's just 10% or something.
 
Since I've got a nice computer, I'd really only want it for exclusives and the video support. I find it interesting that they didn't include it. I get the whole digital distribution thing, but I've got to believe there are a lot of folks out there who value BluRay support in a console.
 
Chaotic42 said:
I basically want a 4K Blue Ray player which can play Madden and Final Fantasy.
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That's not how it works, 4K bluray player is to playback 4K movies. Madden and FF are patched to support 4K which has nothing to do with the bluray optical drive.
 
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TeknoBug said:
That's not how it works, 4K bluray player is to playback 4K movies. Madden and FF are patched to support 4K which has nothing to do with the bluray optical drive.
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Stop being so literal. Many people bought a PS3 because it also played Blu-Ray movies vs the Xbox 360 not being able to. One box that can do both. Thats what he is asking about regarding the PS4. One box that can play UHD Blu Ray and 4k Games. Right now thats just the Xbox One S that can do both.

Will Sony come out with a PS4 Pro Slim or something in the future that has the drive? Maybe? No one knows.
 
sswingle said:
Stop being so literal. Many people bought a PS3 because it also played Blu-Ray movies vs the Xbox 360 not being able to. One box that can do both. Thats what he is asking about regarding the PS4. One box that can play UHD Blu Ray and 4k Games. Right now thats just the Xbox One S that can do both.

Will Sony come out with a PS4 Pro Slim or something in the future that has the drive? Maybe? No one knows.
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They won't. PlayStation is no longer tied to electronics and they have been doing better because of it.
 
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