PS3 worth it if I'm not into movies?

[hans030390]

I have both systems, and I don't use them to watch movies. I'd never give up my PS3 for a 360. I'll admit, the 360 has the best games currently, though the PS3 still has enough to entertain you just as much for a while. I also do believe the PS3 has more potential with games, but at this point, the 360 has the best/most games.

What about online? Do you want Live or are you ok with the PSN? I personally have been more satisfied with the PSN than Live (I think it's my network, so don't kill me)...plus, it's free (and works quite well).

Also, what features do you need? Do you need Wi-fi? Are you OK with rumble-less controllers (for now, though they do have built in rechargeable batteries, unlike the 360)?

It really comes down to the games, though. Do you want what the 360 has to offer or what the PS3 has to offer? You would know better than all of us, so do your own research and figure it out.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: destrekor
no no no you got me all wrong. I agree and consider them completely different. However, its about realism and practicality. If I prefer PC gaming, why would I even consider owning a game thats available on the PC, on a console? It's just a matter of if its practical or not. I need not own a 360 and the games on it, because the games I do like on it, are available on the PC, and I'd rather them on the PC.
just a matter of personal preference. However, I completely agree that they are completely different. One requires quite a bit of work and money, the other, you buy a box, hook up cables and are good to go. Games require no work either. I see why many are drawn, and I will admit I am drawn to the console experience too. I am drawn to both PC and console gaming, but only console gaming that I cannot access on the PC. I hope you understand what I am saying. Eventually PC gaming may just die, but as long as the keyboard and mouse is not universally accepted on all console games, and as long as some PC developers stick to only the PC.. then I will continue to game on the PC. Having only consoles would be awesome! What, with gaming from the couch on typically larger displays, what's not to love?

Ya, I've apparently misunderstood you. It just seemed like you were solidly defending the PS3 again by denouncing 360 game exclusivity by technicalities.

I know that you, randay, and others probably think I'm a diehard 360 fanboy, but I'm really not. I do defend it a lot, because I think misinformation is given a lot when comparing it to the PS3. But in all reality, I'm loving my PS3, it's a better purchase than I thought it would be.

When it all boils down to it, I feel the 360 has the better game selection, the PS3 has the better potential (if that means anything to anyone), the 360 excels in media capabilities (especially if you have a media center PC to hook into), the PS3 has blu-ray built-in (which is awesome if you love watching movies like myself), the 360 has a much better online strategy even if you do have to pay for it, the PS3 is awesome in the customization and add-on department, etc etc etc. Why can't we all get along? 😉

 

[DaveSimmons]

I have a gaming PC and a PS3, and I can afford a 360. Since I already have the other two, the only game really pushing me to buy a 360 is Mass Effect, and it's under 40 hours per play and supposedly has some gameplay issues (despite the great story).

The points of that sentence are:
1. Owning either a PS3 or 360 doesn't mean "no games to play," because a lot of the games most people want to play will be on both.
2. The 360 owners saying the PS3 "has no games" are leaving out the rest of the sentence " . . . if you already own a 360." They also are ignoring Uncharted, Warhawk, and to a lesser extent Heavenly Sword, Folklore, and even Lair (for the 50% of players that "get" the controls).
3. Points 1-2 mean that someone who can only buy one console and chooses the PS3 isn't making a bad choice, it's just that the 360 is a better choice for pure gaming for most people despite the cost of Live and (if needed) wifi.

That said, blu-ray rentals from netflix look very nice on my Samsung 50" DLP 🙂

 

[JackBurton]

For games, get the 360. If you already have a 360, get a PS3. I have both, I wouldn't trade my 360 for a PS3. The ONLY time I buy a game for my PS3 is when it is an exclusive. If it is a game that is put out for both consoles, I get it on the 360. For instance, Madden 08 runs better on the 360. GH III is wireless on the 360 and doesn't need a dongle like the PS3 version (basically meaning the 360 is a cleaner setup). Also, another thing that annoys me on the PS3 is I can't turn it on from the controller. WTH is that about? I do like the PS3, but like I said, I wouldn't trade it in for a 360.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
For games, get the 360. If you already have a 360, get a PS3. I have both, I wouldn't trade my 360 for a PS3. The ONLY time I buy a game for my PS3 is when it is an exclusive. If it is a game that is put out for both consoles, I get it on the 360. For instance, Madden 08 runs better on the 360. GH III is wireless on the 360 and doesn't need a dongle like the PS3 version (basically meaning the 360 is a cleaner setup). Also, another thing that annoys me on the PS3 is I can't turn it on from the controller. WTH is that about? I do like the PS3, but like I said, I wouldn't trade it in for a 360.

uh... what?
yes you can. press the PS button, and *poof*, on turns the PS3. Of course, this requires the 1/0 button on the back of the PS3 to be in the 1 position (1=on) so that the system is on standby. You will know its on standby by the red light on the front of the PS3. 😛
the 360 skips this step by keeping the system permanently on standby, albeit without notification of doing so. If your worried about power consumption, I believe there was specs released of the PS3 in standby, but I believe it won't be more than a watt or two, as the only thing that is really receiving power is that little light and the bluetooth chip awaiting a 'go' signal.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Modeps
If I were to buy one, I'd want to replace my PS2 and now, it seems like you just cant do that. Sony is truly confusing the public with all these PS3 SKUs and hiding behind a veil of public ignorance. Hell, I try to stay up on basically everything and I'm not sure which model is best to buy... I'd want full BC, and the newest SKUs dont support anything but a minimum of software emulation (and that doesnt play all games perfectly)

you were better off buying the higher priced launch system than what they're offering you today.

you can still find the 60gb SKU if you look at enough places, and the 80gb SKU can do BC just not as well as the 60gb. Obviously, the 40gb cannot.. although I am waiting for a firmware update to allow it. The 80gb did still have one of the two PS2 chips, the difference between the 80gb and 60gb was the 60gb had both the EE and GS chips. Now, the 40gb has neither, and thus it will require full software emulation versus partial software emulation.

Every time someone says that I ask for a link or something, and nobody ever obliges. 🙁 I thought they took out all of the hardware in the 80 GB. I haven't seen a reliable source that claims otherwise. Could someone provide one?

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: JackBurton
For games, get the 360. If you already have a 360, get a PS3. I have both, I wouldn't trade my 360 for a PS3. The ONLY time I buy a game for my PS3 is when it is an exclusive. If it is a game that is put out for both consoles, I get it on the 360. For instance, Madden 08 runs better on the 360. GH III is wireless on the 360 and doesn't need a dongle like the PS3 version (basically meaning the 360 is a cleaner setup). Also, another thing that annoys me on the PS3 is I can't turn it on from the controller. WTH is that about? I do like the PS3, but like I said, I wouldn't trade it in for a 360.

uh... what?
yes you can. press the PS button, and *poof*, on turns the PS3. Of course, this requires the 1/0 button on the back of the PS3 to be in the 1 position (1=on) so that the system is on standby. You will know its on standby by the red light on the front of the PS3. 😛
the 360 skips this step by keeping the system permanently on standby, albeit without notification of doing so. If your worried about power consumption, I believe there was specs released of the PS3 in standby, but I believe it won't be more than a watt or two, as the only thing that is really receiving power is that little light and the bluetooth chip awaiting a 'go' signal.

Cool man. Good to know. I'll have to try that out. I need some *poof* action going on over here. 🙂

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: Modeps
If I were to buy one, I'd want to replace my PS2 and now, it seems like you just cant do that. Sony is truly confusing the public with all these PS3 SKUs and hiding behind a veil of public ignorance. Hell, I try to stay up on basically everything and I'm not sure which model is best to buy... I'd want full BC, and the newest SKUs dont support anything but a minimum of software emulation (and that doesnt play all games perfectly)

you were better off buying the higher priced launch system than what they're offering you today.

you can still find the 60gb SKU if you look at enough places, and the 80gb SKU can do BC just not as well as the 60gb. Obviously, the 40gb cannot.. although I am waiting for a firmware update to allow it. The 80gb did still have one of the two PS2 chips, the difference between the 80gb and 60gb was the 60gb had both the EE and GS chips. Now, the 40gb has neither, and thus it will require full software emulation versus partial software emulation.

Every time someone says that I ask for a link or something, and nobody ever obliges. 🙁 I thought they took out all of the hardware in the 80 GB. I haven't seen a reliable source that claims otherwise. Could someone provide one?

okay, well, I believe I may be partly right, but mostly wrong.
here's a photo that displays both the 60gb US PS3 and 60gb EU PS3 motherboards: click
I was chiefly wrong in that the EE and GS are in fact NOT separate chips as I thought, but rather their functions resided in a single chip. The EU 60gb model was known to have slightly reduced BC (the same BC the US 80gb model features) due to removal of the chip. HOWEVER, something seems to be in close proximity to where the EE/GS chip was, however the trace patterns are completely different and don't seem to be similar to any of the trace patterns the US 60gb featured. I don't think that new chip has anything to do with BC, but I have no clue what it is.

btw, at this link, scroll down to post #3 to see all 3 motherboards compared. That chip in question, specifically the traces leading to it, also disappear, in favor of?