PS3 won't upscale to 1080i

[GundamSonicZeroX]

I got the latest firmware, and I know that my TV supports that res. What can be the problem? According to Wikipedia, Ninja Gaiden, (the only game I have) supports that res.

 

[blurredvision]

http://boardsus.playstation.co...=ps3&thread.id=1543693

Apparently some games say 1080i on the back of the box, but aren't. And the PS3 will not upscale a 720p game to 1080i if your TV only supports 1080i. This is one of the biggest oversights of the PS3 hardware, the 360 has had no problem with this since day 1. Of course, this affects only a few people, but it should still be a feature that was included from the start.

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: blurredvision
http://boardsus.playstation.co...=ps3&thread.id=1543693

Apparently some games say 1080i on the back of the box, but aren't. And the PS3 will not upscale a 720p game to 1080i if your TV only supports 1080i. This is one of the biggest oversights of the PS3 hardware, the 360 has had no problem with this since day 1. Of course, this affects only a few people, but it should still be a feature that was included from the start.

Wow, the list of recent games that do not support 1080i/p is really surprising. OK, you can fault Sony for having the original issue, but what's with the developers not working around it by offering 1080i/p options?

Regardless, OP, that forum says you should be OK:

GAMES THAT CURRENTLY SUPPORT 1080i/p output
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Full Auto 2: Battlelines
NBA 2k7
NBA '07
NBA '08 (Demo)
College Hoops 2K7
Sonic (Native 720p, but will display 1080)
Gundam wing
Ridge Racer 7
Virtua Fighter 5 (Native 720p, but will display 1080)
Tekken DR
NBA Street Homecourt (Native 720p, but will display 1080)
Virtua Tennis 3
MLB 07: the Show
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End
Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Rainbow Six Vegas (note- apparently it looks terrible- improper scaling bug)
The Darkness
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Transformers: The Game
All Pro Football 2k8
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Warhawk
LAIR

You said you have the latest firmware, did you check to see if there's an option for video output resolution in the dashboard?

 

[RaiderJ]

Doesn't the PS3 downscale 720p stuff to 480p when connected to 1080i displays? Or did that get fixed?

I remember reading a technical explanation why developer's couldn't do their scaling in-game - something about how the PS3 didn't have the vertical resolution scalers in hardware. Thusly, doing the stretch in software would be too costly.

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: RaiderJ
Doesn't the PS3 downscale 720p stuff to 480p when connected to 1080i displays? Or did that get fixed?

I remember reading a technical explanation why developer's couldn't do their scaling in-game - something about how the PS3 didn't have the vertical resolution scalers in hardware. Thusly, doing the stretch in software would be too costly.

Nope, still not fixed. I just replaced my old RCA 52" RPTV, but when I had it, getting a PS3 was out of the question for me. It handled 1080i only, so any game that wasn't designed with 1080i in mind, only 720p, would be downrezzed to 480p, like you said.

Like I said earlier, it's a horrible oversight on Sony's part. 98% of HD equipment out there scales accordingly, atleast among the standard HDTV resolutions, and for the PS3 to NOT do it is ridiculous. I've upgraded to a new LCD now that handles all resolutions just fine, so I can now get a PS3 without worry, but there are still quite a few HDTV owner out there with older CRT HDTV sets and RPTV sets like the old I had, and they are just out of luck. Sony has been pretty quiet on the whole thing, I think they are hoping it just "goes away".

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: RaiderJ
Doesn't the PS3 downscale 720p stuff to 480p when connected to 1080i displays? Or did that get fixed?

I remember reading a technical explanation why developer's couldn't do their scaling in-game - something about how the PS3 didn't have the vertical resolution scalers in hardware. Thusly, doing the stretch in software would be too costly.

Nope, still not fixed. I just replaced my old RCA 52" RPTV, but when I had it, getting a PS3 was out of the question for me. It handled 1080i only, so any game that wasn't designed with 1080i in mind, only 720p, would be downrezzed to 480p, like you said.

Like I said earlier, it's a horrible oversight on Sony's part. 98% of HD equipment out there scales accordingly, atleast among the standard HDTV resolutions, and for the PS3 to NOT do it is ridiculous. I've upgraded to a new LCD now that handles all resolutions just fine, so I can now get a PS3 without worry, but there are still quite a few HDTV owner out there with older CRT HDTV sets and RPTV sets like the old I had, and they are just out of luck. Sony has been pretty quiet on the whole thing, I think they are hoping it just "goes away".

I can't believe they haven't fixed it even with later hardware revisions. I had assumed that it was no longer an issue.

I was planning to get a PS3 eventually, but i'm not replacing my tv for years. It's a CRT, and i'm unaware if it only accepts 1080i. This hasn't come up before because everything that I connect to it has scaled.

 

[Randum]

Ok this is important to note, the ps3 will scale the game to its "native" resolution. I found this when I first played Warhawk. If a game is native at 1080, it will display that. If it is native AND your tv supports a lower 720, then it will scale to this. If you look at warhawk in both 1080 and 720, its very clear 720 is the native.

The ps3 will simply pick the resolution that is native to that particular title, since the ps1/2 games dont have a "native" it will just simply upscale them to your TVs best resolution. If you want to FORCE something to a particular res, MANUALLY set the video to ONLY that resolution prior to playing.

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Randum
Ok this is important to note, the ps3 will scale the game to its "native" resolution. I found this when I first played Warhawk. If a game is native at 1080, it will display that. If it is native AND your tv supports a lower 720, then it will scale to this. If you look at warhawk in both 1080 and 720, its very clear 720 is the native.

The ps3 will simply pick the resolution that is native to that particular title, since the ps1/2 games dont have a "native" it will just simply upscale them to your TVs best resolution. If you want to FORCE something to a particular res, MANUALLY set the video to ONLY that resolution prior to playing.

You lost me somewhere in there. If the title is native 720p, and my tv only supports 1080i, will it scale to 1080i or only display it in 480p. I know that when the PS3 first came out, it would be 480p only. If that's still the case, then there's no excuse for it.

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

I set the display options to display only 1080i and it works now. Although, the games don't look much better... :?

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
I set the display options to display only 1080i and it works now. Although, the games don't look much better... :?

Huh? 720p only games upscale to 1080i? That's news to me and my 1080i Mitsubishi.

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Originally posted by: BDawg

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX
I set the display options to display only 1080i and it works now. Although, the games don't look much better... :?

Huh? 720p only games upscale to 1080i? That's news to me and my 1080i Mitsubishi.

No, I set the options to only display at 1080i. My TV can't do 1080p.

 

[Carmen813]

My TV supports 720 P and 1080I so I set those checkboxes...will my games do what they are supposed to?

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: Carmen813
My TV supports 720 P and 1080I so I set those checkboxes...will my games do what they are supposed to?

Yes. If 720p is native, it will display in 720. If 1080i is, it will display in 1080.

If your display is a 720p native, it's recommended that you set only 720p. The PS3 will downscale 1080 to 720 just fine.