PS3 will not ship with a HDMI cable

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

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that cable is obviously crap.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp...=pcmcat69400050020&id=1109938024225[/lhttp://[/L]http://[/L]http://[/L]
this one is obviously 40 times better.


bah, 60,000 posts and i can't link

fixored

Heheheh....Monster cable

 

[waggy]

no big deal. as some have posted you can get one for ~$10

no cable is not going to be the reason i do not buy one. the $600 price is heh

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Funny how the Sony haters were whining before that pushing the HD features was a stupid idea since not many people have HDTVs.

If that rant was true, then almost no one needs a HDMI cable, right?

Why should Sony lose an extra $20-30 million shipping cables that won't be used?

:thumbsup:

Yes, but if Sony is pushing the PS3 as providing "True HD" why aren't they giving the end-user the ability to get to "True HD"? There's only one or two HDTVs that can even do 1080p through components.

I agree that this is small potatoes but it is just one of many inconsistencies that Sony has been going in regards to the PS3.

theyre inconsistant with their laptops too.

was in the sony shop the other day an they had one of their AR series lappy's on show. the big 17incher. it had stickers all over it purporting its ability to play 1080p

a quick check revealed that the machine wasnt the top model (with the 1920x1200 17in WS) but the second one down with the 1440x900 17in WS.

1440x900 |= 1920x1200 so that machine sure as hell wont be playing full 1080p on its screen

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Fritzo

You have fun trying to connect everything with 1.5ft of cable.

10ft is $7, but I'm sure it's easier to say $50 instead of looking for the real price. Tool.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ...024004&p_id=2504&seq=1&format=2&style=

When they're that cheap, they're skimping on something (most likely wire gauge and insulation). I'm telling you, a decent 6' HDMI cable is going to run around $50. I've bought several for myself and family members. The worst one I've bought was Radio Shack's brand for a 3' $27.99 cable. When you played audio though the cable the picture would distort.

Tool.

 

[herkulease]

Sure it saves sony money. but other smaller companies can easily afford to put every cable in. My hdtivo(HR10-250) comes with composite, s-video, components, hdmi and hdmi to dvi cables.

In the end it isn't a huge deal I have a few hdmi cables lying around anyhow. If do buy the 600 dollar version I'd be more concerned with whether it will even come with component cables. similar to the xbox 360 setup. Premium version had component while core version just composites.

If sony can't even pack component cables with the $599 version then people should have major gripes.

From sony's ps3 website they are not too clear either.


On what's the difference between $499 and $599 version...

Both solutions include Blu-ray Disc? the latest in high-definition* video, Bluetooth, four USB ports, 1080p video, and the advanced microprocessor, the Cell Broadband Engine?. The difference between them, however, is that the $599 system includes HDMI**, Memory Stick/SD/CompactFlash slots, Wi-Fi***, and a 60GB hard disk drive (HDD), whereas the $499 system comes with a 20GB HDD.

* Video output in HD requires cables and an HD-compatible display, both sold separately. Copy-protected Blu-ray video discs can only output at 1080p using an HDMI cable connected to a device that is compatible with the HDCP standard. HDMI cable not included. Additional equipment may be required to use the HDMI connector.
** HDMI cable not included. Additional equipment may be required to use the HDMI connector.
*** Requires broadband internet service and a wireless access point or LAN. Certain limitations apply to Wi-Fi connectivity. See the product documentation for details. User is responsible for Internet service fees.

 

[UpgradeFailure]

Wait, the PS3 doesn't come with ANY type of HD-Cable? It comes with freakin composite!?

That is horrible

 

[otispunkmeyer]

 

[RichUK]

Lack of HDMI cable makes baby jesus cry

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

what exactly is so great about the 360? Seriousy...there are very few decent games for it. The graphics are underwhelming. There are reliability issues.

I can't speak of "reliability issues". Do you have any proof that the +/- is more than what any other system has? I've heard a few peoples systems being bad, but what happen when the PS2 launched? What about their DVD drives failing? Every electronic system is going to have a failure rate.

The games are picking up steam. Just Cause, Dead Rising, new Madden's, Gears of War and many others around the corner. It takes time to create really good games. Again, the graphics will mature with age. Plus, from what I can tell, the graphics are about the same as the PS3 when utilized properly (i.e. Gears of War). And that's with a 1 year technology disadvantage.

actually i reckon the PS3 is at a disadvantage, especially with its RSX GPU.... that thing is little more than a 7800GTX 512 with a north bridge strapped on. that chip has already been surpassed on the PC platform, but the 360's ATi gpu and its unified shaders has yet to see an equivalent on the PC. R600 cant be far off though.

i also think MS made a wiser choice plumping for general CPU's rather than the mixture of general purpose CPU and an array more specific processors.... we'll see how it pans out though

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

what exactly is so great about the 360? Seriousy...there are very few decent games for it. The graphics are underwhelming. There are reliability issues.

I can't speak of "reliability issues". Do you have any proof that the +/- is more than what any other system has? I've heard a few peoples systems being bad, but what happen when the PS2 launched? What about their DVD drives failing? Every electronic system is going to have a failure rate.

The games are picking up steam. Just Cause, Dead Rising, new Madden's, Gears of War and many others around the corner. It takes time to create really good games. Again, the graphics will mature with age. Plus, from what I can tell, the graphics are about the same as the PS3 when utilized properly (i.e. Gears of War). And that's with a 1 year technology disadvantage.

actually i reckon the PS3 is at a disadvantage, especially with its RSX GPU.... that thing is little more than a 7800GTX 512 with a north bridge strapped on. that chip has already been surpassed on the PC platform, but the 360's ATi gpu and its unified shaders has yet to see an equivalent on the PC. R600 cant be far off though.

i also think MS made a wiser choice plumping for general CPU's rather than the mixture of general purpose CPU and an array more specific processors.... we'll see how it pans out though

I agree. However i think the main purpose of the cell processor is to boost physics processing. This Sony believes is the next big thing in gaming, which in actual fact pretty muc is, aside from the ever improving graphics and AI (which will naturally come as the consol matures).

The more physics presented in game, brings more realism to the game play. Maybe Sony has a greater focus on this aspect, and maybe the RSX will suffice throughout the PS3?s life cycle. Although I find that hard to believe as it is already getting outdated. As long as the RSX can sustain playable FPS at high def resolution it is fine, the cell will do the rest.

 

[zephyrprime]

I'm sure that this is just so sony can sell a hdmi cable for $29.99 as an addon. By the way, any 6' htmi probably only costs $1 to make by some anonymous subcontractor in China.

 

[Noirish]

Originally posted by: mzkhadir
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=67315

But it will ship with a composite cable. But it already includes a HDMI port.

let's be fair
not many people have hdmi port on their tv anyway
no one is going to buy a hdmi tv just because they have a cable
but if they buy the tv, they might come with a cable

this is not an issue
real issue is how they downgrade the hardware specs
i hope there are no more bad changes

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Wait, the PS3 doesn't come with ANY type of HD-Cable? It comes with freakin composite!?

That is horrible

Many in the target market will have similar responses

Everyone says that Sony always copies everything, so maybe they are copying Ninteno's Wii again since it only comes with composite

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Wait, the PS3 doesn't come with ANY type of HD-Cable? It comes with freakin composite!?

That is horrible

I'm no expert on HDTV and its various cables... there's way too many acronyms out there for me to keep track of. But someone else in this thread said there are three different types of HD cables. There are also many people who will use the PS3 without an HDTV. They're already selling the thing at a several hundred dollar loss - do you want them to take an even bigger loss, or charge you to include the four different sets of cables they'd need to keep all of their customers happy?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Wait, the PS3 doesn't come with ANY type of HD-Cable? It comes with freakin composite!?

That is horrible

I'm no expert on HDTV and its various cables... there's way too many acronyms out there for me to keep track of. But someone else in this thread said there are three different types of HD cables. There are also many people who will use the PS3 without an HDTV. They're already selling the thing at a several hundred dollar loss - do you want them to take an even bigger loss, or charge you to include the four different sets of cables they'd need to keep all of their customers happy?

Xbox includes the calbes for us

Honestly, I don't give a damn how luch of a loss Sony takes. That's simpyl not by problem. All I care about is the price, the content, and the price.

If $600 doesn't get me a working HD console I'd be pretty pissed. (


not that I would spend $600, because if I did spend THAT much, and didn't get a damn hdmi/component cable I would take out 3 or 4 best buys with the explosion

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Wait, the PS3 doesn't come with ANY type of HD-Cable? It comes with freakin composite!?

That is horrible

I'm no expert on HDTV and its various cables... there's way too many acronyms out there for me to keep track of. But someone else in this thread said there are three different types of HD cables. There are also many people who will use the PS3 without an HDTV. They're already selling the thing at a several hundred dollar loss - do you want them to take an even bigger loss, or charge you to include the four different sets of cables they'd need to keep all of their customers happy?

No one would use hdmi, component, vga and dvi cables all at once. I have no issue with them not including all of it.

as I said earlier the least Sony can do for the 600 dollar version is something similar to the xbox 360 premium. the video cable had both component and composite. the 500 dollar version similar to the xbox 360 core would get just composite cables.

It would not cost them that much more. maybe a buck at most. they might lose 38 bucks in profits for not being able to sell you a component cable as an accessory but that's it.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Wait, the PS3 doesn't come with ANY type of HD-Cable? It comes with freakin composite!?

That is horrible

I'm no expert on HDTV and its various cables... there's way too many acronyms out there for me to keep track of. But someone else in this thread said there are three different types of HD cables. There are also many people who will use the PS3 without an HDTV. They're already selling the thing at a several hundred dollar loss - do you want them to take an even bigger loss, or charge you to include the four different sets of cables they'd need to keep all of their customers happy?

component, dvi, and hdmi. dvi and hdmi are basically the same thing, but the hdmi cable is more like a USB cable, with those flat contacts instead of pins.

i'd like to see at least an s-video cable. composite is craptacular.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
Wait, the PS3 doesn't come with ANY type of HD-Cable? It comes with freakin composite!?

That is horrible

I'm no expert on HDTV and its various cables... there's way too many acronyms out there for me to keep track of. But someone else in this thread said there are three different types of HD cables. There are also many people who will use the PS3 without an HDTV. They're already selling the thing at a several hundred dollar loss - do you want them to take an even bigger loss, or charge you to include the four different sets of cables they'd need to keep all of their customers happy?

component, dvi, and hdmi. dvi and hdmi are basically the same thing, but the hdmi cable is more like a USB cable, with those flat contacts instead of pins.

i'd like to see at least an s-video cable. composite is craptacular.

HDMI also carries digital audio. Where as DVI-D does not. Other than form factor aka USB style, that is the only other benefit. If you can call it that much of a benefit.

 

[BDawg]

As long as I can use my component cable from PS and PS2, I'm happy.

 

[jtvang125]

I can understand a few people being angry over this. Almost from the get go Sony has been touting the blu-ray drive bundled with the ps3 yet they don't even include cables to take full advantage of it. If not a cheap hdmi cable atleast component cables to get someone started. But I can see why Sony didn't include these cables. There's money to be made from them by selling them seperately. I was just out during my lunchtime looking for component cables for a ps2 and BB wanted $30 for it. A fancier brand with gold plating and better shielding was $60.

 

[spacejamz]

Originally posted by: jtvang125
I was just out during my lunchtime looking for component cables for a ps2 and BB wanted $30 for it. A fancier brand with gold plating and better shielding was $60.

not get get off topic, but BB has the Mad Catz component cables for $15 which have the reg XBOX and PS2 connectors on it...at least they did earlier this year...

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Fritzo

You have fun trying to connect everything with 1.5ft of cable.

10ft is $7, but I'm sure it's easier to say $50 instead of looking for the real price. Tool.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/produ...024004&p_id=2504&seq=1&format=2&style=

When they're that cheap, they're skimping on something (most likely wire gauge and insulation). I'm telling you, a decent 6' HDMI cable is going to run around $50. I've bought several for myself and family members. The worst one I've bought was Radio Shack's brand for a 3' $27.99 cable. When you played audio though the cable the picture would distort.

Tool.

LOL noob. Monoprice is the cable seller of choice in the AVS forums. Guess you shop for monster cables from BB and know best. Of course $50 cable > $7 cable, I mean it cost more!

 

[0roo0roo]

the average person isn't going to find monoprice. hell, atot is made up of geeks, seriously how many of u heard of monopricebefore this thread? so most cables sold will be those at best buy and such places at 25+ bucks

 

[zephyrprime]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the average person isn't going to find monoprice. hell, atot is made up of geeks, seriously how many of u heard of monopricebefore this thread? so most cables sold will be those at best buy and such places at 25+ bucks

This is a good point. I like to buy very specific length cables so I buy from esoteric places online but the vast majority of users don't know or care about such alternatives.

I looked over at bestbuy and the chepest HDMI cable they have is $60.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the average person isn't going to find monoprice. hell, atot is made up of geeks, seriously how many of u heard of monopricebefore this thread? so most cables sold will be those at best buy and such places at 25+ bucks

If you read the AT wiki you'd know about monoprice.com and several other low-cost cable suppliers.

Oh ****** the wiki is down.