PS3 to get DTS:MA on April 15th

[galperi1]

DTS:MA Confirmed

Oh ya!

 

[erwos]

Still no bitstreaming, but this is definitely great news.

 

[pennylane]

Originally posted by: erwos
Still no bitstreaming, but this is definitely great news.

There are rumors that bitstreaming isn't possible on the PS3... here.

That link says it's a software thing but I had the impression from this AVS thread that it's a hardware issue, so it could't be corrected through an update.

I don't know if that's true or not (supposedly it's confirmed by PaidGeek), but if it is, it means the PS3 has to decode Dolby TrueHD (and now DTS MA) to PCM before sending it through HDMI. Sound quality ought to be identical between Dolby TrueHD, DTS MA, and LPCM, but there are apparently issues with how the PS3 sends the LPCM signal (I think it always sends a 7.1 signal) and how some receivers can't apply DSP's to LPCM.

Anyway, DTS MA is great news.

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: erwos
Still no bitstreaming, but this is definitely great news.

What difference does it make whether the decoding takes place in the PS3 or in your receiver?

 

[erwos]

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: erwos
Still no bitstreaming, but this is definitely great news.

What difference does it make whether the decoding takes place in the PS3 or in your receiver?

Your receiver can apply certain processing effects on it to enhance the audio quality, since it knows where your speakers are relative to you. It can't do the same with LPCM.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: erwos
Still no bitstreaming, but this is definitely great news.

What difference does it make whether the decoding takes place in the PS3 or in your receiver?

Your receiver can apply certain processing effects on it to enhance the audio quality, since it knows where your speakers are relative to you. It can't do the same with LPCM.

I HIGHLY doubt anyone will be able to tell if the Blu-Ray unit is doing the decoding verses the receiver.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: erwos
Still no bitstreaming, but this is definitely great news.

What difference does it make whether the decoding takes place in the PS3 or in your receiver?

Your receiver can apply certain processing effects on it to enhance the audio quality, since it knows where your speakers are relative to you. It can't do the same with LPCM.

I HIGHLY doubt anyone will be able to tell if the Blu-Ray unit is doing the decoding verses the receiver.

That's not what he is saying. LPCM can lock out the receiver from being able to manually adjust the volumes on some of the speaker channels. Bitstreaming does.

If you have to compromise your listening position and place your speakers in a non ideal placement(or relative viewing position) you may have to adjust volumes to compensate for sitting closer or further away from one channel than another.

LPCM overrides the manual adjustments that you make on the receiver to compensate for those listening positions.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: erwos
Still no bitstreaming, but this is definitely great news.

What difference does it make whether the decoding takes place in the PS3 or in your receiver?

Your receiver can apply certain processing effects on it to enhance the audio quality, since it knows where your speakers are relative to you. It can't do the same with LPCM.

I HIGHLY doubt anyone will be able to tell if the Blu-Ray unit is doing the decoding verses the receiver.

That's not what he is saying. LPCM can lock out the receiver from being able to manually adjust the volumes on some of the speaker channels. Bitstreaming does.

If you have to compromise your listening position and place your speakers in a non ideal placement(or relative viewing position) you may have to adjust volumes to compensate for sitting closer or further away from one channel than another.

LPCM overrides the manual adjustments that you make on the receiver to compensate for those listening positions.

To my knowledge, any decent receiver (ie Denon 3808 or Onkyo 705) has no problems controlling an LPCM signal.

 

[vi edit]

My H/K 247 will not let me adjust the channels on an LPCM signal from my PS3. If I flip it to bitstream it's not a problem.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: vi edit
My H/K 247 will not let me adjust the channels on an LPCM signal from my PS3. If I flip it to bitstream it's not a problem.

Hmmm, I'll have to see if the 3808 lets you control it.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I HIGHLY doubt anyone will be able to tell if the Blu-Ray unit is doing the decoding verses the receiver.

I can! There's a red DTS light on the receiver

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: vi edit

Originally posted by: JackBurton

Originally posted by: erwos

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: erwos
Still no bitstreaming, but this is definitely great news.

What difference does it make whether the decoding takes place in the PS3 or in your receiver?

Your receiver can apply certain processing effects on it to enhance the audio quality, since it knows where your speakers are relative to you. It can't do the same with LPCM.

I HIGHLY doubt anyone will be able to tell if the Blu-Ray unit is doing the decoding verses the receiver.

That's not what he is saying. LPCM can lock out the receiver from being able to manually adjust the volumes on some of the speaker channels. Bitstreaming does.

If you have to compromise your listening position and place your speakers in a non ideal placement(or relative viewing position) you may have to adjust volumes to compensate for sitting closer or further away from one channel than another.

LPCM overrides the manual adjustments that you make on the receiver to compensate for those listening positions.

Works fine on my receiver.

 

[pennylane]

Shawn, what's your receiver?

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: fanerman91
Shawn, what's your receiver?

Panasonic SA-XR57

 

[Muadib]

This is great news, but when is Sony going to sell the 80GB again? I can't find one, and they weren't on the Sony site the last time I looked.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: JackBurton
I HIGHLY doubt anyone will be able to tell if the Blu-Ray unit is doing the decoding verses the receiver.

I can! There's a red DTS light on the receiver

LOL!! That's right, we paid good money to see those lights. Mines spells it out, and I know I'll miss it if it's not there.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Muadib
This is great news, but when is Sony going to sell the 80GB again? I can't find one, and they weren't on the Sony site the last time I looked.

June. Model refresh.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: vi edit
My H/K 247 will not let me adjust the channels on an LPCM signal from my PS3. If I flip it to bitstream it's not a problem.

I have an HK 247 and it seems just fine for me. But I used the auto-setup mic feature that locked in values based on distance when I set it up. It seems like it applies those settings to the channels regardless of the input format.

The only thing it won't do is do surround in headphones, which my roommate uses when he's up all night/early morning watching movies. So he changes the PS3 to bitstream, but it pisses me off cuz he never changes it back, and sometimes leaves it on. He is a pig though too, and will just fall asleep and leave everything on and shit. Can't wait till next year.

back to the thread topic...
did you use that auto setup? Or are you actually wanting to adjust the channel volumes during playback? Why? I'm quite happy with a system-wide setting for levels, and works great. If I can't hear the dialog from the center (very few movies I've seen have had that problem... seems all the good movies have good and balanced audio tracks), I just turn all the volume up and enjoy the booms that come along with it. But I have never strained to hear things, unless it was kind of softer dialog and I had the volume low due to it being late at night. But doesn't really upset me.

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