PS3 Issue or TV Issue?

giantpinkbunnyhead

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I've had this problem with something in my HT setup that makes playing Blu Ray discs a pain in the ass.

I have my PS3 (20GB model) hooked via HDMI to a receiver (Pioneer Elite 81). From there the video passes to my tv (Westy 42") via HDMI.

If I pop in a bluray movie, i get only audio but no video. Just a black screen. Some discs will show all the ads but when the feature film starts, the screen blacks out at that point. However, if I hook the PS3 straight to the TV and cut out the receiver BEFORE trying to play the movie, the disc plays properly. Once the movie starts playing, I can switch the HDMI cables again so everything goes through the receiver and the movie continues to play correctly.

It seems that the movie will only START playing if my receiver is not in the way. Once it starts playing, I can reconnect the receiver and everything's golden.

As it happens, I had another ELite 81 Receiver on hand so I replaced receivers and it changed nothing. I sold the first receiver went to my brother, yet when he hooks his PS3 (80GB) to it, his blu ray movies play perfectly without having to swap wires like I do. This tells me my receiver likely isn't the problem.

It's gotta be either the PS3 or the TV. I don't have anyone locally who has a PS3 I can borrow for troubleshooting. And I don't have another 42" Westy lying around. I"m not sure what to do at this point... Has anyone run into this problem before and solved it? Did the earlier PS3's maybe have different Blu-Ray equipment that didn't work right?
 

Kenmitch

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You didn't mention it.

But did you take your PS3 and try it on his system?

Did you try swapping the HDMI cables?

Wouldn't see how the PS3 would cause the problem....But I guess it's possible

 

Slick5150

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Sounds like maybe the receiver isn't picking up the proper resolution change maybe (the ads at the beginning of the disc are perhaps only 480p or something, and then when it switches to 1080p it gets tripped up)? Is your PS3 properly setup as far as what resolution to output from?

I'm not familiar with the Pioneer receiver, but there may also be some settings there as to how it handles the HDMI video input->output.
 

giantpinkbunnyhead

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Well guys I think I found it...

On the PS3's display settings, there was a video format setting for 24 FPS that could be set to On, Off, or Automatic. Mine was set to Automatic. When I turned it to "ON", I got no picture on anything... even the PS3 menu was gone. I set it to "OFF" and everything worked... INCLUDING BR movies. I guess the "Auto" setting doesn't play nice on my setup.

Thanks for the ideas!
 

Muadib

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Your problem could be with either the Pioneer or the PS3. You call your Pioneer the Elite 81, so I'm guessing you mean this. Both the PS3 & the Pioneer Elite VSX-81TXV can do video conversion to 1080p. Is your tv a 1080p set? If it isn't, then you have to make sure that neither the PS3 or the VSX-81TXV is sending a 1080p signal. If your tv is a 1080p model, check the PS3 & make sure it's not sending 1080p/24. I don't think any Westinghouse sets can handle 1080p/24.

If you've checked all that & still have a problem, then I would change the HDMI cable.

EDIT: 5 minutes too late!
 
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I had a similar problem setting up the PS3 on my aunt & uncles system (through an Onkyo amp). While Spiderman 3 would play it was jerky. Did the same thing as you with disabling the 24 fps setting and the problem cleared right up.