Prototype

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: mindcycle

Originally posted by: Harvey

You're making a distinction without a difference. Bank robbery, carjacking and theft by deception or fraud all involve the theft of the property of another. Patents and copyrights recognize the value of "intellectual property" that is embodied more in concept than in a physical reality, but it is still property. If you steal the ideas of another and profit from the sale or use of those ideas, you are as much a thief as the bank robber, the con man and the carjacker.

Ok, but would you agree that physical theft and copying bytes of data are two different activities? If your answer is yes, then it would make sense that they would require different definitions.

I do NOT agree that they are two different activities. In both cases, the thief expropriates an asset that belongs to another and converting it to his own purposes, whether it's selling it or using it. It makes no difference whether it's a phyical asset or the income or reward due to the creator of intellectual property.

How do you "steal" bytes of data?

If those bytes describe or embody intellectual property, how is it NOT stealing to take them without paying the person who owns them? Patents and copyrights are provided under the U.S. Constitution.

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

Read and learn about intellectual property.

 

[mindcycle]

Originally posted by: Harvey
If those bytes describe or embody intellectual property, how is it NOT stealing to take them without paying the person who owns them? Patents and copyrights are provided under the U.S. Constitution.

So if there is no distinction between the two activities (stealing a physical object vs copying bytes of data), then why does the phrase copyright infringement exist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...nt#Comparison_to_theft

Anyway it goes. I'm not trying to argue that piracy is ok, or anything like that. I'm simply pointing out the difference between the two activities. Maybe it's simply a difference of opinion..

The fact that the two activities can have varying effects on the environment, given the situation, means it's still up for debate. IMO they are fundamentally two different things. (stealing a physical object vs copying bytes of data)

 

[coloumb]

holy crap - how'd this post go from "prototype" the game to beating a dead horse about piracy?

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: gigahertz20

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: gigahertz20
I'd like to try out a demo of it, but I don't see any available. Of course they probably didn't want to release a demo before the full game came out in fear that people would play it and not want to buy it. Looks like I'll be making a trip to a torrent site....

I have an idea of another trip you might be making

And where might that be? Thousands of bittorent downloads, and I have yet to make this trip you speak of. It also helps to have a hacked modem that lets you change the MAC address, free internet with no physical home address associated with your IP. Eat your heart out jonks.

So you are not only stealing software...you are also stealing someones internet. Get a fucking job kid.

 

[marmasatt]

Originally posted by: coloumb
holy crap - how'd this post go from "prototype" the game to beating a dead horse about piracy?

Jesus, I just did the same thing, lol. Let me read up on how the peeps like this game(I'm thinking).....And now I have to sort through all this crap?

 

[Edge1]

Can someone who actually played the game come on here and save this thread? I don't care how you got it, just tell us about it.

 

[gorcorps]

So is this game any good? This is about the GAME prototype right? PC gaming is going to fall apart with this crap.