Protests in Spain about refugees

[1prophet]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...s-injured-attacked-thugs-Stockholm-no-go-zone

the eu is fucked.

In more ways then one, the bleeding hearts are actually emboldening the very right wing factions in their nations and sooner or later they will be elected into power, political correctness could very well become political suicide,

Instead of trying to put out the fire underneath this pot of boiling water, they think by holding the lid down they will keep things under control, out of site out of mind,

but in effect like all coverups, it will eventually blow up in their face taking their beloved political correctness with them.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...e-probe-migrants-blame-for-serious-crime-rant

Swedes rally to defend officer facing probe for 'migrants to blame for serious crime' rant

A SWEDISH police officer currently under investigation after he said migrants were to blame for much of the serious crime he deals with, has experienced a swell of support.


Last Friday Peter Springare took to Facebook to detail what his average week looked like as a police investigator in Örebro, a small city in southern Sweden.

Mr Springare, who has committed nearly 50 years of his life to the force, said he believes the majority share of serious crimes were being committed by migrants.

The former deputy chief of the serious crimes division wrote: “I’m so f***** tired. What I’m writing here isn’t politically correct. But I don’t care.

“Our pensioners are on their knees, the schools are a mess, healthcare is an inferno, the police is completely destroyed. Everyone knows why, but none dares or wants to say why.”

Revealing the cases he had been assigned that week, Mr Springare said he had dealt with a number of serious rapes, assaults, blackmail, murder attempt, abuse and violence against the police.

“Half of the suspects, we can't be sure because they don't have any valid papers," he said.

"Which in itself usually means that they're lying about their nationality and identity. Now we are only talking about Örebro municipality."

Controversy erupted across Sweden following the Facebook post and the outspoken officer is facing an internal probe after sharing the information on social media.

The report, filed by police management, accuses Mr Springare of racial agitation, however he has been allowed to remain in his role pending the result of the probe.


A number of leading officials have tried to discredit Mr Springare’s claims however Frederik Sword, chief investigator of the Ljungby police, said the officer had portrayed the situation accurately.

Mr Sword told SML: “This is a hot potato, but this is what it looks like in reality. Foreign-born and second generation immigrants are overrepresented in certain crimes.

“I would never have written such a thing on Facebook. He had every right to do it, but as a police officer, one has to be extremely neutral and impartial when it comes to issues related to politics, religion and sexual orientation.”

He added: “As the chief investigator in Ljungby, I've had much the same experience. The picture he gives is realistic.”

 

[UglyCasanova]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...barcelona-urge-spain-to-take-in-more-refugees

A friend summed this up as follows:

"The unemployment rate in Spain is 22%.
160,000 people marched because the government didn't take in enough refugees.

The rest of us should feel god damned ashamed."

This makes no sense. Good intentions and caring for others is admirable, but with such an extraordinarily high unemployment rate you would think the priority would be to take care of their own instead of diverting limited government funds to others. Or have they just completely given up on themselves?

Also this is in Barcelona, which if memory serves me right is the wealthiest region of Spain (to the point of many there calling for Caledonian independence from the rest of Spain). I wonder if this arms wide open sentiment is felt across the rest of the country.

 

[disappoint]

Why aren't they protesting over the high unemployment rate? I never get why the public on both sides have such warped priorities.

This. So much this. They are idiots because they are protesting the wrong thing.

 

[norseamd]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...barcelona-urge-spain-to-take-in-more-refugees

A friend summed this up as follows:

"The unemployment rate in Spain is 22%.
160,000 people marched because the government didn't take in enough refugees.

The rest of us should feel god damned ashamed."

Spain has been ruled by far right extremists for decades, and theyve been oppressing regional areas in Spain for just as many decades.

 

[norseamd]

This makes no sense. Good intentions and caring for others is admirable, but with such an extraordinarily high unemployment rate you would think the priority would be to take care of their own instead of diverting limited government funds to others. Or have they just completely given up on themselves?

Also this is in Barcelona, which if memory serves me right is the wealthiest region of Spain (to the point of many there calling for Caledonian independence from the rest of Spain). I wonder if this arms wide open sentiment is felt across the rest of the country.

To be honest, like I said above, the far right extremists that have a lot of control over the federal government often clash and oppress the regional cultures and governments, like Catalonia, but also Basque, Andulusa, Aragon, Valencia, Asturias, Galicia, Cantabria, etc.

Just take even one look at this map!

 

[OutHouse]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...s-injured-attacked-thugs-Stockholm-no-go-zone

the eu is fucked.

that is so sad to hear about shit like that. They let shit like that happen, the Sweds need to stop that cancer from growing.

 

[ivwshane]

To be honest, like I said above, the far right extremists that have a lot of control over the federal government often clash and oppress the regional cultures and governments, like Catalonia, but also Basque, Andulusa, Aragon, Valencia, Asturias, Galicia, Cantabria, etc.

Just take even one look at this map!

Uh... You might as well be posting skittles because your map doesn't mean shit to those that are unfamiliar with what you are talking about.

 

[mikeymikec]

This makes no sense. Good intentions and caring for others is admirable, but with such an extraordinarily high unemployment rate you would think the priority would be to take care of their own instead of diverting limited government funds to others. Or have they just completely given up on themselves?

Just because there's higher-than-average unemployment in Spain, it doesn't mean that they have nothing and have given up on themselves (what on earth would make you think that?).

 

[Victorian Gray]

Just because there's higher-than-average unemployment in Spain, it doesn't mean that they have nothing and have given up on themselves (what on earth would make you think that?).

Ignorance.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Ignorance.

Another lovely comment from you, nothing of substance just an unnecessary and childish attack generally on one's intelligence and your own superiority. Thanks for adding to the discussion as usual.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Another lovely comment from you, nothing of substance just an unnecessary and childish attack generally on one's intelligence and your own superiority. Thanks for adding to the discussion as usual.

Sorry, but your reply showed complete ignorance as to the political/economic/social situation in Spain. It was the appropriate word.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I concede that point. However, the main reason to take in refugees is to help those in need. As has been demonstrated in Europe lately, those refugees are often able to choose where to take refuge.

And this is the problem with you - and every liberal that thinks "helping" should be everyone's general stance in life. There is a certain point where "helping" is no longer "helping" the overall country.

You have bleeding hearts so big that you would damn the entire country of millions of people all to say that you helped the lives of a few. Did that help people in general when the economy falls and cultures clash internally? No, but you will still give yourself a pat on the back because you helped a few people to damn the lives of many.

Things such as immigration should never be based on emotion. The same goes for economic policies. You don't implement a welfare state based on emotions, you implement them based on what is best for the country with facts and logic.

Furthermore, a society that perhaps isn't as prosperous yet seeks to help those in need is one that I would place in far higher regard than a more prosperous country that acts like refugees are lepers. Sadly, many societies are engaging in what I call "me politics", where most people only think selfishly and only to the end of their own noses, rather than thinking about that their selfish actions only help to fuel terrorism by serving up perfectly true propaganda material to the likes of ISIS, let alone the fact that some countries that are shirking their humanitarian responsibilities are the ones that caused enough chaos to allow ISIS to flourish in the first place.

You can have all the "feel good" feelings you want, the question is if the immigration helps or hinders the economy as a whole. Quit thinking with your heart and use your brain moran.

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[mikeymikec]

And this is the problem with you - and every liberal that thinks "helping" should be everyone's general stance in life. There is a certain point where "helping" is no longer "helping" the overall country.

I find it interesting the way you've worded this, as if you've advocated (or supported advocation) that anything be done to help these people and that "liberals like myself" are simply going over the top with our "helpfulness".

You can have all the "feel good" feelings you want, the question is if the immigration helps or hinders the economy as a whole. Quit thinking with your heart and use your brain moran.

In your opinion, that's the important question. In my opinion, there would be much fewer wars if people didn't obsess over the bottom line, or ego, or worrying that (for example) Jewish refugees are going to "Jew up the place", and if people had the attitude that they should fix what they helped to break.

If the roles were reversed, I suspect that you would be wondering why people who can easily afford to help you aren't bothering to.

If you think that my response that you responded to was purely emotional, then perhaps you should try re-reading it. There are obvious reasons to help refugees that aren't purely about morals or feels.

 

[disappoint]

Uh... You might as well be posting skittles because your map doesn't mean shit to those that are unfamiliar with what you are talking about.

One of my biggest pet peeves: Unlabeled charts and graphs.

 

[norseamd]

One of my biggest pet peeves: Unlabeled charts and graphs.

"Areas in Spain with separatist or autonomist movements, as well as their claims to territory in neighbouring countries."

Came from these articles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Europe#Spain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalisms_and_regionalisms_of_Spain

 

[piasabird]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...barcelona-urge-spain-to-take-in-more-refugees

I think Spain can take a couple million people from Mexico also.

 

[master_shake_]

@OutHouse

that is so sad to hear about shit like that. They let shit like that happen, the Sweds need to stop that cancer from growing.

if you speak up you are racist.

even though islam is a disease and not a race.

 

[jman19]

@OutHouse



if you speak up you are racist.

even though islam is a disease and not a race.

You're right Islam isn't a race. I think you're confused.

 

[raildogg]

First these Europeans and Americans destabilize and destroy the Middle East to create chaos. Now, they cry when the people living there want to escape the chaos created by the Europeans and America.

 

[raildogg]

@OutHouse



if you speak up you are racist.

even though islam is a disease and not a race.

Your one of the people your Western governments love. Continue supporting this war of terror against Muslims despite the fact that it is the West killing millions of Arabs and Afghans since 9/11.

But that's what the West has been doing for the past thousand years.