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Protection Against Tazering

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Encryptic

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The Chuck E. Cheese thread about the guy who got tazered for allegedly not paying for his salad inspired an argument that admittedly was more interesting than the original topic. 😀

So...I put it to the "real" electrical engineers and the armchair electrical engineers:

Would wearing a Faraday cage that covered your entire body protect you from tazering?

/draws the line in the sand and motions Spidey07 and 911TZ into the thread

 
Originally posted by: PingSpike
rubber suits.
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lol, unless you are into some kind of bondage, who would where these? and that would be to hot to where on a warm day.
 
hahaha an entire body suit made of faraday cage!? :laugh: Wouldn't that be prohibitively expensive with all that copper? That would still be awesome though. Hope they don't shoot you in the face when you're trying to run away from Chuck E. Cheese's after not paying for your salad. Either that or make a faraday cage helmet and hope they don't notice the HUGE MAN IN COPPER ARMOR eating in one of the back booths. :laugh:
 
But doesnt a tazer shoot hooks at you that poke into your skin? If you have a faraday cage wouldnt these just poke in because the bars of the cage prolly wouldnt stop them. What you would need is some sort of armor to just stop the probes from hooking into you.
 
Essentially, you have to create enough resistance between the embedded taser points to make it arc. Which would be a hell of a lot, seeing as the two darts tend to be a fair distance apart on impact.

- M4H
 
It was stated in the other thread that a faraday cage vest would protect you. I stated that it would not. The faraday cage would have to surround your entire body to prevent you from being shocked.
 
Here was my case in the other thread:

Anyway, about the faraday cage vest, I think it would still allow the guy to get zapped. A faraday cage works on the principle that electricity only wants to travel on the surface of a conductor. For the electricity flowing in the chest area, it will travel through the vest instead. But the vest only covers the chest area, and the electricity would still want to travel to all the regions of his body that the vest wasn't covering.

Imagine wearing a bracelet and hooking a high voltage up to it. That bracelet would be a very small cage surrounding your wrist, but it wouldn't stop you from getting shocked. It may stop the skin directly under the metal from getting shocked, but that electricity will still want to raise the potential all through your body, and it will have to run from your wrist to your feet somehow.

In the case of the vest, it's larger than a bracelet but still doesn't surround the whole body. The potential must equalize throughout your body, and you have 50,000 volts wanting to reach the legs, arms, neck, and cramping up your muscles in the process.

Here is essentially the same thing, a jacket that is electrified. It's a woven vest that is electrified that surrounds the user's chest. It would act as a faraday cage, but they still use a rubber insulating layer between it and the wearer. They also mention that you shouldn't touch it with your hands or face or you'll get shocked. So it sounds like the people who designed it didn't think the cage affect will stop you from getting shocked. Keep in mind that the taser unit being contained in this jacket won't be any different than an officer's taser being stuck in your faraday cage jacket. The only difference will be that you'd be wearing the transformer instead of the officer holding it.
 
I was at d&b the other night and there was a fight. the security guards started tazering everybody. it was awesome.
 
Originally posted by: MrYAK
Originally posted by: PingSpike
rubber suits.
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lol, unless you are into some kind of bondage, who would where these? and that would be to hot to where on a warm day.
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Probably the same kind of people who would wear a pure copper faraday cage suit.
 
why not just wear a thick padded nonconductive jacket?

I can't believe guys in here are advocating solutions involving metal.
 
Originally posted by: fs5
I was at d&b the other night and there was a fight. the security guards started tazering everybody. it was awesome.
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Man, nothing fun like that happens when I'm out.
 
How would you walk if you're inside a faraday cage? It'd have to be like one of those hamster ball things that rolls along the floor.
 
Okay, so let's say you make a defense against a taser.

The cops will now either shoot your ass or club you like a baby seal.

/eagerly awaits video 😀

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: jdub1107
Originally posted by: fs5
I was at d&b the other night and there was a fight. the security guards started tazering everybody. it was awesome.
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Man, nothing fun like that happens when I'm out.
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At the D&B here, there is a game called the screamer where you basically sit on a chair and they send volts in to your hands and you get more tickets the longer you hold on.

The voltage increases but never to a dangerous state obviously.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
But doesnt a tazer shoot hooks at you that poke into your skin? If you have a faraday cage wouldnt these just poke in because the bars of the cage prolly wouldnt stop them. What you would need is some sort of armor to just stop the probes from hooking into you.
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Closer to darts than hooks, but same idea.
Oh, and look what's a Featured Item on HowStuffWorks. 😉

- M4H
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...The gun is hooked up to a tank of highly conductive liquid, typically a mixture of water, salt and various other conductive elements. When you pull the trigger, electrical current travels from the gun, through the liquid stream, to the attacker.

These guns have a longer firing range than Taser guns, and you can shoot them many times in succession. They are generally more cumbersome than Taser guns, however, because you need to cart the conductive liquid around. High-powered guns work with vehicle-mounted water cannons, while portable models typically include a water tank backpack. Many portable units use the same sort of water pumping system as Super Soaker squirt guns.
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Hmmmm... :light:

😀
 
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: chiwawa626
But doesnt a tazer shoot hooks at you that poke into your skin? If you have a faraday cage wouldnt these just poke in because the bars of the cage prolly wouldnt stop them. What you would need is some sort of armor to just stop the probes from hooking into you.
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Closer to darts than hooks, but same idea.
Oh, and look what's a Featured Item on HowStuffWorks. 😉

- M4H
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...The gun is hooked up to a tank of highly conductive liquid, typically a mixture of water, salt and various other conductive elements. When you pull the trigger, electrical current travels from the gun, through the liquid stream, to the attacker.

These guns have a longer firing range than Taser guns, and you can shoot them many times in succession. They are generally more cumbersome than Taser guns, however, because you need to cart the conductive liquid around. High-powered guns work with vehicle-mounted water cannons, while portable models typically include a water tank backpack. Many portable units use the same sort of water pumping system as Super Soaker squirt guns.
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Hmmmm... :light:

😀
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Anyone else reminded of the guy who built the homemade flamethrower? 😀

- M4H
 
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