With my Plextor 12/10/32 and Clone cd it takes about 20min max to make an image. Depends on the protection, but never more than 20min. Are you guys using the right settings? For instance with a Safedisk 1 protected game are you checking Fast error skip, and intelligent bad sector scanner? With the latest version of Securom just check Read suchannel data form audio/data tracks. Dont know if the latest version of Clonecd can beat Safedisk 2, though. However, this latet protection reeks havoc on some cdrom drives so I think a lot of software companies are not using it. Heck the ones that did usually disabled it in a patch-it caused too many problems-same with securom 2.