Property border question

DPK

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My parent's house is partially on the neighbors property. About a foot or so is outside of their property border. I am worried that the wrong neighbor could create a problem about it. If anyone knows about this sort of thing, what should I try to get them to do?
 

KLin

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Originally posted by: DPK
The house is in Pennsylvania and was built in 1931.

so what makes you think it's suddenly going to be a problem after 73 years?
 

rickn

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just let your neighbors build their fence thru the middle of your living room.

legally, they could sue you into moving the house
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: DPK
The house is in Pennsylvania and was built in 1931.

so what makes you think it's suddenly going to be a problem after 73 years?

Exactly.

After a certain length of time you are given the right to use the property.

I think it's 10 years.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: rickn
just let your neighbors build their fence thru the middle of your living room.

legally, they could sue you into moving the house

actually i think they would have hard problem with that since the house has been there 70+ years.

If it was new then they would have a chance.
 

DPK

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Well, I think these neighbors could eventually be a problem. One of them made a joke to my dad about the property border to to be an a**. So I am looking at the options.
 

KarenMarie

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Our neighbors fence is 1.5 foot over on our property... I have no problem with that, but when the upstairs tenants were putting all their bikes, and toys and leaning their garbage cans along my property, I had a problem.

We were under MAJOR construction/renovations here and there was a lot of stuff from the attic, etc that had to be thrown away. We leaned it up against our garage. We threw away an old pair of skates and it turned out to be their kids' and they got pissed off. Also, the kids hung out leaning on the fence all the time while we were working and we were not insured for them if they got hurt.

If it were part of a house... holy cow, I would hate that if it were my house.

Can the property owner demand that you either move it or pay rent?

:)
 

HappyPuppy

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In the case of both the house and the fence,after so many years the property line is legally moved. There may be some paperwork involved, but the rights to the property in question can be transferred.
 

rickn

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: rickn
just let your neighbors build their fence thru the middle of your living room.

legally, they could sue you into moving the house

actually i think they would have hard problem with that since the house has been there 70+ years.

If it was new then they would have a chance.

When I put in a new fence around my house, two of my neighbors went in on it, and we had land survey done with markers placed for line boundaries. I have no idea about a friggin house though. Considering you can sue for just about everything else, i'd imagine you could sue them to move their house
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: rickn
just let your neighbors build their fence thru the middle of your living room.

legally, they could sue you into moving the house

actually i think they would have hard problem with that since the house has been there 70+ years.

If it was new then they would have a chance.

When I put in a new fence around my house, two of my neighbors went in on it, and we had land survey done with markers placed for line boundaries. I have no idea about a friggin house though. Considering you can sue for just about everything else, i'd imagine you could sue them to move their house

sure you can sue but that does not mean you are going to win. there is a law that says that if you live on a property without any complaints for so many years its yours (not the one squisher said) i just can't remember what it says. (my grandparents had the same problem. the neighbors house was a foot into there property for 55 years).

 

rickn

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: rickn
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: rickn
just let your neighbors build their fence thru the middle of your living room.

legally, they could sue you into moving the house

actually i think they would have hard problem with that since the house has been there 70+ years.

If it was new then they would have a chance.

When I put in a new fence around my house, two of my neighbors went in on it, and we had land survey done with markers placed for line boundaries. I have no idea about a friggin house though. Considering you can sue for just about everything else, i'd imagine you could sue them to move their house

sure you can sue but that does not mean you are going to win. there is a law that says that if you live on a property without any complaints for so many years its yours (not the one squisher said) i just can't remember what it says. (my grandparents had the same problem. the neighbors house was a foot into there property for 55 years).


those laws usually vary from county to county, no?
 

Squisher

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I believe Adverse Possession has been used by landlocked property owners who have used a neighbor's access road for a number of years to block the neighbor from building on that road and thus cutting off the landlocked owner from the main road.

 

Kibbo

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In the case of the home, you have nothing to worry about, due to adverse posession. In the case of the fence, you probably stiull have technical possession of the land, but they probably have the legal right to keep the fence up. I dunno about use on thier side of the fence, but you will probably have problems dealing with that. Win or lose, it won't be worth the legal fees. Probably better to work with your neighbour for a mutually agreeable resolution. Unless you've already been an asshole about it. Can happen to the best of us.
 

KarenMarie

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The only time we had a problem with the neighbors, was after they b!tched when their skates were accidentally thrown away... after that I put up a string to show where my property was and they took it down and threw it over the fence into my backyard.... I went over, showed them where the property marker was and told them that I was gonna have the landlord pay property tax, rent and insurance on that part of the property because of them. Never heard another word or had thier stuff on my property. The land owner is kewl.. he keep that small area clean and maintained when he works on his property, so I never complain.

We will need to put up a new fence before too long, as the one we have now is not tall enough to keep the cats in and to protect them I want a higher one made of PVC (or whatever). At that time, I will reclaim the rest of my property.

:)
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Squisher
I believe Adverse Possession has been used by landlocked property owners who have used a neighbor's access road for a number of years to block the neighbor from building on that road and thus cutting off the landlocked owner from the main road.

thats an easement

this is adverse possession. only problem with adverse possession is if it isn't noticeable enough the court could use its equitable powers to make the situation 'right'
 

IamElectro

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I assume this property has been bought and sold several time in 73 years. I am not an expert but most banks require a survey of property before they will lend money. Someting tells me the markers are wrong and the property needs resurveyed. By any means I doubt that there is much that the neighbors can do about it at this point.