Proof that Toyota is going to take over the world...

[Staples]

Are Toyota fanboys going to die when this happens because they will have nothing to live for?

I sure hope so.

 

[Adul]

with 30 billion in cash, toyota can afford to gamble some

 

[desk]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
battery is he only limit factro. electric motors are just big magnets. easy to replace, inexpensive. it's the battery tjhat will kill the deal. we need better batteries.

not true. i work on a hybrid project. in our vehicle, if you need to replace a motor, the entire transaxle needs to be swapped. and that's a lot of $$$.

 

[Squisher]

Toyota has mad skillz.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Squisher
Toyota has mad skillz.

"You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills... "

 

[redly]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Squisher
Toyota has mad skillz.

"You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills... "

Hahahaha...I just watched that for the first time last night...strange funny movie

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
battery is he only limit factro. electric motors are just big magnets. easy to replace, inexpensive. it's the battery tjhat will kill the deal. we need better batteries.

there is toyota's real plan... design a car that will be so prohibitively expensive to repair (when the batteries go) that people will buy new cars rather than repair the old ones. imagine, everyone driving a less than 6 year old toyota! planned obsolesence was child's play compared to this!

 

[Wag]

Even with gas prices being $2.50/ga how long would it take to make back the $3500 price difference on the Prius?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Wag
Even with gas prices being $2.50/ga how long would it take to make back the $3500 price difference on the Prius?

a normal civic is about 7.1 cents per mile in gas at 2.50.

a hybrid civic is about 5.5 cents per mile in gas at 2.50.

difference is about 1.6 cents per mile.

to make up the difference you'd have to drive 218750 miles

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: helo7050
Toyota are garbage. .I would never buy it.

Along with:

Ford
Chevy
Kia
Saturn
GM
Buick

I'll only get a:

Mercedes
BMW
Porsche

You just compared Toyota to Ford, Chevy, Kia and GM.

That's your problem.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
there is toyota's real plan... design a car that will be so prohibitively expensive to repair (when the batteries go) that people will buy new cars rather than repair the old ones. imagine, everyone driving a less than 6 year old toyota! planned obsolesence was child's play compared to this!

I doubt it. For a long time now, Toyota's plan has been to design long-lasting cars, so that young people (who tend to drive old, cheap cars) grow older, they keep buying Toyotas.

Toyota doesn't fall apart NEARLY as quickly as many other companies.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: lnguyen
wired has an article on hybrid technology... and how toyota is supreme. Prius outsells honda's stuff like mad. Nissan said "ef it, we're just going to license the stuff for our altima hybrid." Ford goes "shoot, our team basically came up w/ what toyota has.. umm.. we'll just license it and keep from any lawsuits."

The only question is, will technology advance fast enough to say... reduce the battery weight and size.. and keep the price low....

Nissan basically thinks of hybrid technology as a gimmick, saying that the value of hybrids is lower than their costs.

 

[Nebor]

I'm betting on a come from behind victory by Hyundai. They may have utterly failed at internal combustion, but they shall rule the world of electric motors!

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I'm betting on a come from behind victory by Hyundai. They may have utterly failed at internal combustion, but they shall rule the world of electric motors!

Hyundais aren't awful these days , but I haven't heard too many rumblings of them making big moves in the hybrid world.

Take note of Malcolm Bricklin who has stated in interviews that after launching Chery, he wants to have an all-hybrid lineup as soon as possible.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
they seem to think that being a secondary adopter is as hard as being an early adopter...

not a matter of difficulty when ur competitors ahve to liscence ur tech

Toyota's 650 hybrid patents cover the "power flow" of the hybrid system, encompassing the system's control logic, as well as primary power source, secondary energy storage system and the motor-generator system.


fords hybrid uses some of toyotas tech

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Wag
Even with gas prices being $2.50/ga how long would it take to make back the $3500 price difference on the Prius?

Wait...$3500 price difference from what?

 

[OverVolt]

Originally posted by: russianpower

Originally posted by: helo7050
Toyota are garbage. .I would never buy it.

Along with:

Ford
Chevy
Kia
Saturn
GM
Buick

I'll only get a:

Mercedes
BMW
Porsche

ONLY if you have the money to buy them which most Americans don't.

Marketing and perception of quality are wonderful things

Anyway, gas prices will need to increase to around the ~3.50mark for a hybrid to really take off, if it does toyota will be like

for(i=0; i<0; i--)
{
money++;
}

 

[SportSC4]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Wag
Even with gas prices being $2.50/ga how long would it take to make back the $3500 price difference on the Prius?

a normal civic is about 7.1 cents per mile in gas at 2.50.

a hybrid civic is about 5.5 cents per mile in gas at 2.50.

difference is about 1.6 cents per mile.

to make up the difference you'd have to drive 218750 miles

unfortunately i don't think gas will stay at $2.50 a gallon.

 

[BillyBatson]

toyota is actually a very good company and for them to take this step although could potentially raise their profit margins through the roof, is also capable of saving the consumer $ in the long run along with saving mother earth! LOL. Also a down side is if other companys have to pay toyota royalties to use its patents in their cars (such as Ford for the hybrid escape or whatever) it will drive up the costs of competing brand hybrids

 

[TRDGT]

Being a service writer for a Toyota dealership, I can say first hand how reliable the Prius is.
They are NEVER in the shop for major issues, our used car dept. purchased 7 TRAC cars last weekend we are down to 2 as of yesterday, and they were priced around 25K for an 04 prius.
The battery is warranted for 8 years or 100,000 miles,no they are not cheap, but we have had plenty of gen1 prius owners replace theirs rather than buy a new car.
Just some fyi.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: SportSC4

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Wag
Even with gas prices being $2.50/ga how long would it take to make back the $3500 price difference on the Prius?

a normal civic is about 7.1 cents per mile in gas at 2.50.

a hybrid civic is about 5.5 cents per mile in gas at 2.50.

difference is about 1.6 cents per mile.

to make up the difference you'd have to drive 218750 miles

unfortunately i don't think gas will stay at $2.50 a gallon.

Hehehehe I have to laugh as the gap closes as the Elitists online said this would never happen.

<------- Sits back, opens :beer: and enjoys the wallowing :laugh:

 

[imported_hscorpio]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Take note of Malcolm Bricklin who has stated in interviews that after launching Chery, he wants to have an all-hybrid lineup as soon as possible.

Spy photo of Chery's 2007 hybrid QX, with all new technology!

 

[MasterAndCommander]

If Toyota comes out with a Hybrid Tundra or Tacoma, that will be my next vehicle :thumbsup:

 

[Cobalt]

Why do hybrid cars have to look like ass? Do they just want us to distinguish a hybrid from a normal car by looking at the outside?

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: cobalt
Why do hybrid cars have to look like ass? Do they just want us to distinguish a hybrid from a normal car by looking at the outside?

Hybrid Honda Civic
Hybrid Honda Accord
Hybrid Lexus RX400h
Hybrid Lexus GS350h
Hybrid Ford Escape

You can get hybrids that look like normal vehicles