Proof of collusion: Trump campaign and Russia

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Paul Manafort had a meeting with a Russian agent with ties to the GRU and provided them insider polling data while he was running the Trump campaign. BTW - Manafort lied about that meeting.

Remember all the Trumpbots, no collusion? Take a look

https://apnews.com/608b9fcbca5941348e2ac8796e94c8cd
 

cytg111

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I think consensus is that Manafort is going to take the wrap for that one... Sad. But this is one thing that CAN tank Trump, per Trumps own admission.. Anyway, Seth has been well ahead of the curve on this one

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson
 
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With the prospect of his family being broke and him dying in jail, Manafort can still cooperate
 

cytg111

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One word: Novichok
 

twjr

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Or Polonium.
 

cytg111

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IMO this SHOULD be the top thread in PN at the moment.

I mean it is SO blatantly obvious by now that Trump colluded with mega pal Putin to get his show on the road, it is screaming to the skies so much that

- No single Congress critter is in doubt that Trump is a russian plant
- No single Fox News director is in doubt that Tump is a russian puppet
- No single person in the WH is in doubt that Trump is a russian stooge

And still, all you get is .... Crickets. There can be no doubt anymore... and yet, only Crickets.

Take a look around, cause all those crickets are the collaborators.
 

fskimospy

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Yes, I struggle to see exactly what you need in addition to the campaign manager sharing information with Russian intelligence.

Why there aren’t inpeachment proceedings right now is beyond me.
 
Feb 4, 2009
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Yes, I struggle to see exactly what you need in addition to the campaign manager sharing information with Russian intelligence.

Why there aren’t inpeachment proceedings right now is beyond me.
I think it needs to be proven, to my knowledge this is a court filing
However I agree, if this was President Hillary Clinton it wouldn’t be going the way it is.
 
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All campaign managers share insider polling data with foreign adversaries. Perfectly normal.
 
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Well, the big non-shock of the week. Hey, all you moronic Trump forum members that kept yelping "Russia! Russia! Russia!" can suck it.

lol.
 
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Reading up on it now. NYT said it was a Ukrainian with ties to Russian oligarchs and this might be why he did it

Why Mr. Manafort wanted them to see American polling data is unclear. He might have hoped that any proof that he was managing a winning candidate would help him collect money he claimed to be owed for his work on behalf of the Ukrainian parties.​
This dude seems as sleezy as they come. Only the best. Question now will be did Trump know. Even if he didn’t the company he kept should be enough imo. Will be very interested in Mueller to hurry the frick up and release the report.
 
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Correction: January 8, 2019
A previous version of this article misidentified the people to whom Paul Manafort wanted a Russian associate to send polling data. Mr. Manafort wanted the data sent to two Ukrainian oligarchs, Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov, not to Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch close to the Kremlin.
 
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All campaign managers share insider polling data with foreign adversaries. Perfectly normal.

If by "All" you meant "None" then perhaps we might believe you aren't a totally crazy misinformed stooge.
 
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Reading up on it now. NYT said it was a Ukrainian with ties to Russian oligarchs and this might be why he did it

Why Mr. Manafort wanted them to see American polling data is unclear. He might have hoped that any proof that he was managing a winning candidate would help him collect money he claimed to be owed for his work on behalf of the Ukrainian parties.​
This dude seems as sleezy as they come. Only the best. Question now will be did Trump know. Even if he didn’t the company he kept should be enough imo. Will be very interested in Mueller to hurry the frick up and release the report.
How could he not have known is a better question. Let's keep in mind the micromanager already tried to lie about knowing about Stormy payments, and this is a guy who has been chasing Russian attention since the late 80s.
 
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He probably did know but I’d like to put it on more than just you feel he’s a micro manager.
 
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Correction: January 8, 2019
A previous version of this article misidentified the people to whom Paul Manafort wanted a Russian associate to send polling data. Mr. Manafort wanted the data sent to two Ukrainian oligarchs, Serhiy Lyovochkin and Rinat Akhmetov, not to Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch close to the Kremlin.
And wtf would those two have done with it? Well, other than pass it on to their Russian friends to use it....
 

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Pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
Poe’s law x 1000. UC is a disingenuous poster who likes to play dumb, parrots propaganda (that has been debunked the multiple times he has spewed them) and concern trolls essentially every thread he touches. So as far as we can tell, he probably would believe something outlandish as that.
 
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And wtf would those two have done with it? Well, other than pass it on to their Russian friends to use it....

What would a Russian have done with it. My understanding is this was him trying to prove to them he has political sway because he felt they owed him money and it was used to keep their ear. It’s slimy as frick but he wasn’t passing nuclear secrets or anything. And after he had her ear I wonder how he expected to get the money and what he needed to do to get it. Seems like the start of trying to sell his power.
 
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What would a Russian have done with it. My understanding is this was him trying to prove to them he has political sway because he felt they owed him money and it was used to keep their ear. It’s slimy as frick but he wasn’t passing nuclear secrets or anything. And after he had her ear I wonder how he expected to get the money and what he needed to do to get it. Seems like the start of trying to sell his power.
Depends on the data, if it’s not public data and can be used to hyper target people that’s a super shitty traitorous thing to do.
If it’s manafort trying to pay off some debt that’s a traitorous thing to do.
 
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He probably did know but I’d like to put it on more than just you feel he’s a micro manager.
That's a woeful comment on how much you know of the guy's history, but I'll be the first to agree national politics shouldn't be about my feels.
 
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