Proof-of-Citizenship Ruling Victory for Honest Vote

[IronWing]

Something doesn't seem right.

If 200 people swore they are non-citizens on the jury commissioner form and only 10% get the form, the plaintiff calculates that 2000 non-citizens have registered to vote statewide.

Now if those 2000 make up 10% of the registered voters statewide, that means there are only 20,000 registered voters in the state of Arizona?

You have to understand that Tom Horne is the former AZ Superintendent of Public Instruction. Math isn't his forte. Tax funding for religious schools, extramarital affairs, hit and run, and race baiting are the areas Tom Horne really shines.

 

[boomerang]

Jesus H. Christ, are you people really this ignorant? You guys learned through common core math or what?

 

[manimal]

Jesus H. Christ, are you people really this ignorant? You guys learned through common core math or what?

Ignorance implies a lack of knowledge. The knowledge is out there. Voter registration fruand does not mean voter fraud.


The actual number of confirmed cases of voter fraud are so small they pale in comparison to the likely outcome of voter disenfranchisement.

Just say what you mean. you dont like poor people to vote.

 

[boomerang]

Ignorance implies a lack of knowledge. The knowledge is out there. Voter registration fruand does not mean voter fraud.


The actual number of confirmed cases of voter fraud are so small they pale in comparison to the likely outcome of voter disenfranchisement.

Just say what you mean. you dont like poor people to vote.

I'm going to type this real slow so that hopefully you can understand. The post you're replying to is my comment about the failed math of her209. You and IronWing both agreed with it.

Read the article. Read the multiple links provided by unixwizzard. People who are non-citizens voted and in large enough numbers to potentially affect the outcomes of elections. That, is fraud. Or, just keep the blinders on, stick your fingers in your ears and continue to chant "I can't hear you".

If you don't agree with the information given, provide some information to refute it. Declarations and proclamations that "it's not happening" aren't worth the time it took you to type. The prog talking points that you guys spew out like good little followers play very, very well amongst yourselves. The rest of us just shake our heads in amazement.

Fucking progressives.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm going to type this real slow so that hopefully you can understand. The post you're replying to is my comment about the failed math of her209. You and IronWing both agreed with it.

Read the article. Read the multiple links provided by unixwizzard. People who are non-citizens voted and in large enough numbers to potentially affect the outcomes of elections. That, is fraud. Or, just keep the blinders on, stick your fingers in your ears and continue to chant "I can't hear you".

If you don't agree with the information given, provide some information to refute it. Declarations and proclamations that "it's not happening" aren't worth the time it took you to type. The prog talking points that you guys spew out like good little followers play very, very well amongst yourselves. The rest of us just shake our heads in amazement.

Fucking progressives.

Can you provide the exact quotes that say that illegal people voted and in large enough numbers to sway elections? I see mentions of registration, but that isn't voting.

Additionally, can you provide any information about what percentage of these votes would have been prevented by the measures sought, in person voter id in particular?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I'm going to type this real slow so that hopefully you can understand. The post you're replying to is my comment about the failed math of her209. You and IronWing both agreed with it.

Read the article. Read the multiple links provided by unixwizzard. People who are non-citizens voted and in large enough numbers to potentially affect the outcomes of elections. That, is fraud. Or, just keep the blinders on, stick your fingers in your ears and continue to chant "I can't hear you".

If you don't agree with the information given, provide some information to refute it. Declarations and proclamations that "it's not happening" aren't worth the time it took you to type. The prog talking points that you guys spew out like good little followers play very, very well amongst yourselves. The rest of us just shake our heads in amazement.

Fucking progressives.

Those articles say nothing close to that. Perhaps you should be reading them slower, or have someone read them to you, before you take such a superior attitude towards others.

 

[WHAMPOM]

A U.S. District Court Judge has ruled that voter fraud is a significant problem in both Arizona and Kansas. The feds must therefore assist in enforcing voting laws requiring new voters to prove they are U.S. citizens.

Arizona AG Horne: Proof-of-Citizenship Ruling Victory for Honest Vote

Thought we covered this in the Acorn scandal of their workers padding their paychecks by turning in fraudulent voter registrations. It is not voter fraud til they show up at the polling booth and knowingly commit fraud. All they are giving as evidence is mistaken registrations.

All this brings to light is a registration problem.

 

[Vic]

Small government means not having to have a government ID.

 

[boomerang]

Thought we covered this in the Acorn scandal of their workers padding their paychecks by turning in fraudulent voter registrations. It is not voter fraud til they show up at the polling booth and knowingly commit fraud. All they are giving as evidence is mistaken registrations.

All this brings to light is a registration problem.

Feel free to contact U.S. District Judge Eric Melgren and share your thoughts. Or, work to attain his office and you can be the one making the decisions.

 

[manimal]

Can you provide the exact quotes that say that illegal people voted and in large enough numbers to sway elections? I see mentions of registration, but that isn't voting.

Additionally, can you provide any information about what percentage of these votes would have been prevented by the measures sought, in person voter id in particular?

Thank you for typing that nice and slowly for him.

 

[brycejones]

Thank you for typing that nice and slowly for him.

I'm sorry you're asking the OP to be accurate.........realistic hope not found.

 

[fskimospy]

Feel free to contact U.S. District Judge Eric Melgren and share your thoughts. Or, work to attain his office and you can be the one making the decisions.

Have you had any luck with those quotes or the information about in-person voter fraud?

 

[Paratus]

OP doesn't understand the difference between registration and voting.

Color me shocked, shocked I tell you!

Another spoon-fed, big government, black and white fox conservative.

 

[MongGrel]

So, what you're saying is business as usual in politics and nothing's changed.

Ah, the radicalization of the right. Glad you guys are dying off.

shhh circle jerk in progress. You dont want to get something into your eye.

It's getting to the point they reach for any limb to keep from falling further these days.

:whiste:

 

[Zaap]

LOL! Funniest of all, most of the halfwits identified themselves.

So now from the crowd that painted itself into a stupid corner of "Voter fraud doesn't exist!!!!!!!!!" we get, "Okay, so there's illegal voter registration fraud... what's the problem with that??! !!!!!!!!!! Look the other way!!!!!!!!!! You can't prove anyone registering to vote illegally is actually voting illegally!!!!!!!"

All of course while not having a single clue about or shred of proof one way or the other.

LOL!

Give a leftwing twit enough rope and they will always hang themselves.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

LOL! Funniest of all, most of the halfwits identified themselves.

So now from the crowd that painted itself into a stupid corner of "Voter fraud doesn't exist!!!!!!!!!" we get, "Okay, so there's illegal voter registration fraud... what's the problem with that??! !!!!!!!!!! Look the other way!!!!!!!!!! You can't prove anyone registering to vote illegally is actually voting illegally!!!!!!!"

All of course while not having a single clue about or shred of proof one way or the other.

LOL!

Give a leftwing twit enough rope and they will always hang themselves.

Are you suggesting there's no way to know if someone registered to vote actually voted? Do you not understand the process at all?

You need to do some brushing up.

 

[IOException]

Two ideas:

1) People lie to get out of jury duty.
2) How many actual, documented cases of voter fraud?

Lack of proof doesn't mean you can simply guesstimate crap together.

 

[MongGrel]

Jesus H. Christ, are you people really this ignorant? You guys learned through common core math or what?

The fact of the matter is, you've many people scratching their heads wondering why you're that ignorant.

Apparently.

 

[Bowfinger]

Feel free to contact U.S. District Judge Eric Melgren and share your thoughts. Or, work to attain his office and you can be the one making the decisions.

Or we can continue to point out you're lying again. Your OP is, as usual, based on a lie, fed to dupes like you and Zaap to keep you obedient and unquestioning, safely cocooned in the nutter bubble of GOP propaganda. As I already pointed out, this ruling and judge Melgren said not a single word to support Horne's claims about voting fraud. You believe him anyway, because it's what you need to hear. Honesty, facts, and data are kryptonite to you.

You've admitted before (in essence) that you prefer to remain smug in your ignorance rather than taxing your mind with inconvenient facts that challenge your faith. Good job at sticking to that goal. Though it's a sorry waste of human intellect, I suppose it does make you a good little GOP lapdog. Speak. Roll over. Good boyyyyy.

 

[Bowfinger]

LOL. I predict this thread will draw every single one of the forum halfwits ...

Well, here you are, it was a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I'm curious, have you ever posted anything that has come out of your own mind rather than directly from RNC.com? In your relatively short time here, you have consistently been one of the most one-sided partisan hacks here, and a belligerent asshat to boot. Can you think for yourself? Do you have anything of value to contribute, or are you doomed to be yet another useless RNC drone, spouting your little propaganda points in perfect unison with the other brain-washed simpletons?

* crickets *

I see you've doubled down on stupid rather than admitting the links don't show what you pretend they show. Good boyyyyyy.

 

[Bowfinger]

Two ideas:

1) People lie to get out of jury duty.
2) How many actual, documented cases of voter fraud?

Lack of proof doesn't mean you can simply guesstimate crap together.

Indeed. I don't want to tire the GOP drones by asking them to think for themselves ... but, does anyone else notice the huge discrepancy between (Republican AG) Horne's words and his actions? He squeals about the horrible voting fraud in Arizona, and how the "liberal" media cover it up, yet he somehow can't be bothered to try to prove his case. He claims he has 200 liars, people who either submitted fraudulent voter registrations or who lied on a jury summons to get out of jury duty. Has he bothered to find out which are which? Has he checked to see how many of them actually voted? Indeed, has he done anything at all about this so-called "serious problem" besides misrepresent a recent court ruling to stoke the outrage of the usual GOP rubes?

Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Attorney General. If you actually believe what you're shoveling, you have 200 potential voter fraud cases in your hands. How about you get off your partisan butt and actually pursue them? Or maybe, just maybe, you know that if you did, you'll prove that for all your smoke, there's just not much fire ... again.

 

[ivwshane]

Lol! I'm going to call it; it looks like another righty self pwnage thread!




Some people like wearing, "I'm with stupid", tee shirts while apparently zap and boomer prefer the, "I'm stupid" shirts!

 

[Texashiker]

What is with the hate towards boomerang?

Regardless of what he said, it does not change the courts ruling.

Hopefully this will go to the supreme court and the justice department will get bitch slapped.

 

[Zaap]

Are you suggesting there's no way to know if someone registered to vote actually voted? Do you not understand the process at all?

You need to do some brushing up.

Show me where any investigation has been done to compare fraudulent registrations with fraudulent voting.

Meanwhile, this is nothing new.

In FL back in 2012:

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_new...on-year-struggle-in-florida-and-colorado?lite

The state said its initial check found 180,000 potential non-citizens who may be registered voters.

Since early May, Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner, an appointee of Scott’s, has been leading an effort to use data from the state Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles to verify that registered voters are U.S. citizens.

Thursday’s letter to Detzner from Christian Herren, chief of the voting section at Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, said Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act required the state to get pre-clearance from the department or from a federal judge before implementing its citizenship checking program.

Herren also said the NVRA doesn’t allow an effort to remove the names of ineligible people from the list of voters so close to an election – Florida holds its primary on Aug. 14.

Chris Cate, spokesman for the Florida Department of State said his department had not yet had a chance to thoroughly review Herren’s letter.

But he added, “We provided information to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security yesterday, and have been doing so for nearly nine months, in hopes that the federal government would help us identify ineligible voters.”

So whenever anyone tries to look into even determining the eligibility of registered voters, they get stonewalled indefinitely! So if a state's Secretary of State can't even get information on who is legally registered vs. illegally, where's anyone getting the information on who is actually voting?

 

[IOException]

What is with the hate towards boomerang?

Regardless of what he said, it does not change the courts ruling.

Hopefully this will go to the supreme court and the justice department will get bitch slapped.

The point is that the feds haven't ruled that voter fraud is a significant problem. The ruling simply states that the federally provided voter registration forms have to have spaces for information that a particular state requires.

boomerang is simply reading/implying whatever suits his political agenda.