Proof every vote counts - Virginia House

dullard

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Yes, in rare cases, you can show that a single vote would switch control of a government. This is a great example.

But, even better examples are just about every single election that occurs here. If all of the "my vote doesn't count" people banded together, they have more votes as a block than either the Republicans or the Democrats. Thus, they always have the ability to actually elect anyone they want, even 3rd party, if they actually got out their vote.
 

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It's cool to see but doesn't invalidate the attitude toward elections with a large margin of victory. I still think it's important to vote anyway, and that political progress may still be made in a lost race.
 
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Yes, in rare cases, you can show that a single vote would switch control of a government. This is a great example.

But, even better examples are just about every single election that occurs here. If all of the "my vote doesn't count" people banded together, they have more votes as a block than either the Republicans or the Democrats. Thus, they always have the ability to actually elect anyone they want, even 3rd party, if they actually got out their vote.

Wouldnt that only count assuming all the "my vote doesnt count" people voted the same? Which is highly unlikely. Would probably be an even split among them id imagine.
 

Sunburn74

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Yes, in rare cases, you can show that a single vote would switch control of a government. This is a great example.

But, even better examples are just about every single election that occurs here. If all of the "my vote doesn't count" people banded together, they have more votes as a block than either the Republicans or the Democrats. Thus, they always have the ability to actually elect anyone they want, even 3rd party, if they actually got out their vote.
These people should form a political party.
 

dullard

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Wouldnt that only count assuming all the "my vote doesnt count" people voted the same? Which is highly unlikely. Would probably be an even split among them id imagine.
True, it is highly unlikely that they all would vote the same. But, lets suppose they did split evenly and one half actually got organized and energized. That would have been about 54 million voters. In the last election, there were just under 63 million for Trump, 66 million for Clinton, and 2 million for Johnson. That 54 million block could have won it for Trump strongly, won it for Clinton easily, or maybe not given Johnson the outright majority, but would have split the electoral college enough that he would have a fighting chance.

My point is that their votes don't count because they choose not to vote--not the other way that they claim. They could have banded together and had their vote count.

This map is relevant:
http://brilliantmaps.com/did-not-vote/
 

Sunburn74

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True, it is highly unlikely that they all would vote the same. But, lets suppose they did split evenly and one half actually got organized and energized. That would have been about 54 million voters. In the last election, there were just under 63 million for Trump, 66 million for Clinton, and 2 million for Johnson. That 54 million block could have won it for Trump strongly, won it for Clinton easily, or maybe not given Johnson the outright majority, but would have split the electoral college enough that he would have a fighting chance.

My point is that their votes don't count because they choose not to vote--not the other way that they claim. They could have banded together and had their vote count.

This map is relevant:
http://brilliantmaps.com/did-not-vote/
Perhaps did not vote SHOULD be a candidate, meaning if there isn't a minimum turnout amount to prevent "Did not vote" from being the majority then the whole thing has to be done over and over again.
 
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True, it is highly unlikely that they all would vote the same. But, lets suppose they did split evenly and one half actually got organized and energized. That would have been about 54 million voters. In the last election, there were just under 63 million for Trump, 66 million for Clinton, and 2 million for Johnson. That 54 million block could have won it for Trump strongly, won it for Clinton easily, or maybe not given Johnson the outright majority, but would have split the electoral college enough that he would have a fighting chance.

My point is that their votes don't count because they choose not to vote--not the other way that they claim. They could have banded together and had their vote count.

This map is relevant:
http://brilliantmaps.com/did-not-vote/

That 'Did Not Vote' guy would do a better job then Trump :)
 
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You can't use then and than correctly. You have no right to criticize anyone.
Totally nailed me. All my thoughts are invalid henceforth.

But on a real note. When you have to attack spelling or grammar mistakes, you know you've lost.
 

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I thought that they flew them in direct from El Salvador.

Damn it, you're right to the Democratic black sites where Democrats think of ways to hook good kids on drugs, shoot porn to entrap sitting GOP senators on twitter, and organize gun confiscation round ups.
 

nickqt

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Damn it, you're right to the Democratic black sites where Democrats think of ways to hook good kids on drugs, shoot porn to entrap sitting GOP senators on twitter, and organize gun confiscation round ups.
Listen. any day now Obama is sending out the FEMA trains to confiscate your guns and force you to gay marry your uncle.