Proliferation of proposed gun laws in blue locales = good thing?

glenn1

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Whole lot of proposed gun control laws in blue states and cities lately. And perhaps that's a good thing? How many people really trust a progressive with firearms? Imagine some of the more unhinged leftist posters here (no need to name names), then imagine not only being your neighbor in the house next door, but being your neighbor and *owning a firearm* to boot. Or being on the range in the firing lane adjacent to you for that matter. Now there's a fucking scary thought.

Now apply the principle more generally and think how much safer we all are without a bunch of urban liberals having firearms. Holy crap, pretty much all their "knowledge" of firearms comes from watching action movies or playing video games. Most of them couldn't tell a shotgun from a sniper rifle without consulting Wikipedia or the Call of Duty 4 manual, and if you handed them a revolver would probably shoot their foot off trying to "find the safety."

So support the efforts of your blue state/city brethren to ban firearms in their communities; not only for their safety but yours.
 

Nebor

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The blue cities are basically full of the poor and a few wealthy liberals. The former doesn't need guns (they create all the gun violence) and the liberals don't want them. Frankly I don't care what they do. Most are restricted from changing the firearms laws of their state though.
 

cubby1223

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Most are restricted from changing the firearms laws of their state though.

I guess by using Most and not All you are adding exceptions for Chicago and New York City? Hell, Mayor Bloomberg has already purchased one politician's election in Chicago to change firearms laws, his PAC is geared up to purchase more elections across the nation. And Mayor Emanuel has been sending letters to major bank executives "encouraging" them to not provide services to gun manufacturers.

Proliferation of proposed gun laws in blue locales = bad thing.
 
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SaurusX

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I don't live anywhere near a blue state. That being said, I never even considered owning a gun before all of the hoopla and now I am. Just because I don't happen to use a constitutional right doesn't mean I want it be legislated away by a nanny state. It would be best to get in while I can and I know this is a common feeling to a lot of people.
 

monovillage

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The only good thing about it is that some of the people that voted Blue in the past will change their votes and many of the people that were "swing" votes will vote against Blue in the next elections. We'll have to wait and see how this frenzy of attempted gun control legislation is going to impact the political races in 2014.
There's a reason the Democrats avoided this topic for a decade or longer.
 

KB

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Blue states are slightly misnomers. The only reason they are blue is because their cities, the largest population centers, vote democrat. The rural areas of almost every state mostly vote republican. The cities are legislating the country because they have the largest number of voters benefiting from the government, welfare for the poor and kick-backs for the rich. I wish they would just legislate their own cities and let us in the external towns legislate ourselves.
 

Midwayman

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Sadly its the people who live in poor 'blue' areas that are most in need of having a firearm for protection. Gang bangers already have them there. The rich liberals apparently want to take away the right of the poor to protect themselves.
 

monovillage

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Sadly its the people who live in poor 'blue' areas that are most in need of having a firearm for protection. Gang bangers already have them there. The rich liberals apparently want to take away the right of the poor to protect themselves.

It's always been that way. The rich, privileged and politically connected will always have access to guns and armed security, it's always the poor and the working class that get their right to self defense restricted.
The liberals like it that way, it makes even more people dependent on them.
 
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Agree with the OP. Seeing some of the progressive/leftist idiots on here who get so enraged when they are challenged it would be a good idea to make sure they dont have guns
 

kage69

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Blue states are slightly misnomers. The only reason they are blue is because their cities, the largest population centers, vote democrat. The rural areas of almost every state mostly vote republican. The cities are legislating the country because they have the largest number of voters benefiting from the government, welfare for the poor and kick-backs for the rich. I wish they would just legislate their own cities and let us in the external towns legislate ourselves.

You are painting all states with a pretty wide brush there. I don't think the color fits Vermont well.
 

monovillage

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You are painting all states with a pretty wide brush there. I don't think the color fits Vermont well.

Sorry, we accidentally dropped Vermont into Los Angeles County and lost it, we'll let you know if we find it.
 
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You are painting all states with a pretty wide brush there. I don't think the color fits Vermont well.

He may be painting with a broad brush, but he's right. Urban areas tend to vote Democrat, rural areas tend to vote Republican. Vermont is something of an anomaly to that trend, but given that he said "The rural areas of almost every state mostly vote republican." How is that incorrect?

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kage69

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He may be painting with a broad brush, but he's right. Urban areas tend to vote Democrat, rural areas tend to vote Republican. Vermont is something of an anomaly to that trend, but given that he said "The rural areas of almost every state mostly vote republican." How is that incorrect?

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I didn't declare a national trend incorrect, I said it doesn't fit well concerning Vermont. How is that incorrect? Since you asked though, I guess what I took exception to was "The only reason they are blue is because their cities" He did say "almost every" though, you are correct. I happen to agree with him on the city issue. NY got fucked.

I did phrase my feelings poorly though, apologies. I just see a lot of gun totting Dem voters out in the sticks in New England, I like VT as an example because of it's mix of carry laws and cities (although admittedly none of them are close to NYC, Pitt, Phily, etc) yet it's a Dem/lib haven. I think New England is noteworthy enough that people shouldn't automatically consider rural areas as republican leaning.

I think the OP question may be correct in a way, but it has nothing to do with the Bidenitis that's really going around. Far left anti-gun nuts are seeing gun owners on their side galvanize in the face of impending heavy handed legislation. They know that they face an increasingly uphill battle from more than one side. I think most of it will fizzle out, and the end result will be other states saying "Look, 'the ban' couldn't even fly in a blue state like XXXXX, one would be DOA here....."
 
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Munky

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While I appreciate the liberals voluntarily giving up their right to firearms, that doesn't bode well for those of us who are not hardcore leftists but happen to live in a predominantly liberal state or city.
 

Nebor

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Sadly its the people who live in poor 'blue' areas that are most in need of having a firearm for protection. Gang bangers already have them there. The rich liberals apparently want to take away the right of the poor to protect themselves.

Those people are the ones responsible for virtually all gun crime. People in Maseratis and BMWs don't conduct many drive by shootings.
 

boochi

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If the blue states want to give up their guns, fine by me. When the revolution begins it will make for an easier slaughter.
 

Midwayman

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Those people are the ones responsible for virtually all gun crime. People in Maseratis and BMWs don't conduct many drive by shootings.

Right. That's exactly why they need them. To protect themselves from all the crazy thugs where they live.
 

Nebor

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Right. That's exactly why they need them. To protect themselves from all the crazy thugs where they live.

Tons of them ARE the thugs. I'd prefer to just write off the entire socioeconomic group and relegate them to deep blue urban hell holes like Detroit, Washington DC and Chicago. Someone said, "13 people were shot yesterday!" And we all turned our attention, and then he said, "It was in Washington DC." And everyone lost interest. That many people are shot every day in DC, Detroit and Chicago.