Project Black Water is Dead

Tweakin

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I'm renaming this thread as most of my questions have been answered, and I'm now moving ahead with the mod. I'll be posting pics as I go along for review and comments.
Here are my current pieces:

System
ASUS P6T v2 (Bios 0203)
i7 920 @ 19x200 (Batch 3836B215)
Corsair 3GB DDR3-1600 8-8-8-24-1T
Dual EVGA GTX 285 SSC (Sli configuration)
Lian Li PC-7FBW

Cooling
TFC 120.2 Rad w/30mm Spaces & Yate Loons.
Swiftech GTZ.
Bitspower MOS Blocks.
Danger Den MPC-ASUS-P6T NB Block.
Swiftech 350 Pump w/ XSPC Head
Swiftech Microres rev2
Bitspower 3/8" Compression Fittings for Board
Bitspower 3/8" Barbs for hidden connections
Tygon 3/8" ID Hose

Pics of Progress
Case Before Mods
Dual Rad Inside Fitting 1 (looking down)
Dual Rad Inside Fitting 2 (front)
Bottom Mod Fitting
Bottom Sound Deadened w/rad


 

PCTC2

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GTX 285's have to put out at least 150W each. At least. A single 120.1 radiator with a low-speed fan will not be able to handle 300W of heat. That's a job for 120.2 and 120.3 radiators.
 

Tweakin

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Originally posted by: PCTC2
GTX 285's have to put out at least 150W each. At least. A single 120.1 radiator with a low-speed fan will not be able to handle 300W of heat. That's a job for 120.2 and 120.3 radiators.

Crap...that's more the an i7! I didn't think they put out that much.
 

PCTC2

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Originally posted by: Tweakin
Originally posted by: PCTC2
GTX 285's have to put out at least 150W each. At least. A single 120.1 radiator with a low-speed fan will not be able to handle 300W of heat. That's a job for 120.2 and 120.3 radiators.

Crap...that's more the an i7! I didn't think they put out that much.

Maybe less, but combined they will overpower a single 120 radiator.
 

Tweakin

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I'm starting to mod my Lian Li PC-7F. I'm using a TFC 120.2 on the floor of the case, and the only other available area for expansion is the stock 120 exhaust fan at the rear.

It's cramped, but I'm going for a silent configuration, but an i7 and sli 285 SSC's put out some thermals!
 

daw123

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What about mounting the rad on top of the case or on the back using a radbox?

The down side with the former option is that you would have to cut holes in the top panel.
 

Tweakin

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Originally posted by: daw123
What about mounting the rad on top of the case or on the back using a radbox?

The down side with the former option is that you would have to cut holes in the top panel.

No room...the PC-7F is a smaller case, which is one of the reasons I like it. No room on the top for a rad, which leaves the front/bottom for a dual and a single at the rear.

I spent the entire day mapping out the locations and modding the case. Most of the bottom is now open for the dual TFC, along with removing some side, support, and front material for later wiring/cooling mods.
 

Tweakin

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Originally posted by: PCTC2
Why not something like this for a larger radiator?

Wrong case...those panels are for the larger tower cases...the name is confusing as they are both PC-7 series. Mounting a rad in the top of my case would not be possible as it would sit right on top of the memory.
 

PCTC2

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Why don't you use your TFC 120.2 on your GTX 260's and keep the Noctua on your Q9650. It'll be quieter than with the stock GTX285 fans.
 

daw123

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I see what you mean about space being tight inside.

For other people's reference, here's a picture of the inside of the case.
 

Tweakin

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Have stable configurations from 3.2 through 3.8Ghz. 3.8 & 4Ghz are causing thermal issues on air...haulting testing for now.

Currently working on undervolting 3.2Ghz for lowest possible thermal footprint.

Still need to find solution for dual GTX's.
 

PCTC2

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You won't gain much by way of your i7, but you should get the best possible 120.1 radiator for the money and put everything in a single loop. This should about handle an i7 and your GTX285's but I doubt you will gain much in OCing your i7 vs air. And you should possibly pick up a second MCP350 and get an EK dualhead top for the MCP350's. Probably your best bet in this situation.
 

Tweakin

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Originally posted by: PCTC2
You won't gain much by way of your i7, but you should get the best possible 120.1 radiator for the money and put everything in a single loop. This should about handle an i7 and your GTX285's but I doubt you will gain much in OCing your i7 vs air. And you should possibly pick up a second MCP350 and get an EK dualhead top for the MCP350's. Probably your best bet in this situation.

I had thought about putting the cpu on the single 120, and running the board and GTX's on the dual 120. I'm not really interested in a high OC, the system is pretty quick at default, it just depends on the thermals.
 

thilanliyan

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I had my 2x120 rad at the bottom of the case right next to the PSU and let me tell you it was a pain in ass. Is your PSU short enough to fit there? I have a Corsair HX620 (which is relatively small) and it was still a pain to work with everything once the fans were mounted on the rad. Anyway, hopefully everything works well for you.
 

aigomorla

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can you stack a rad on top of that fesser like i did to my MCR here?

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_1311.jpg

quite honestly, any 120x2 radiator would handle 2 285GTX's.

problem is can you fit another RAD on top with fans and then split your loop up to dual loops with an additional pump?
 

PCTC2

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Too bad you already have the Fesser. You could've gotten the new stackable Swiftech MCR220 and a standard MCR220 and ran a single loop with two pumps.

I'd say just toss the CPU on a 120.1 and use the TFC on the GTX285.
 

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Tweakin, in another thread I mentioned the rad was too small, IIRC you disagreed. This is what I did, 2 pumps, 2 rads, single loop. With a single 7950 and my quad, prime load temps were in the mid to high 40s, fans running full blast. It sounded like a jet. Running the fans slow your rads will be overworked, keep the board on air with good heatsinks like the Enzo's. With the air from the rads there will be plenty for the board to be passive, if necessary you can use the Scythe 40 mm to cool them.
 

Tweakin

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Originally posted by: thilan29
I had my 2x120 rad at the bottom of the case right next to the PSU and let me tell you it was a pain in ass. Is your PSU short enough to fit there? I have a Corsair HX620 (which is relatively small) and it was still a pain to work with everything once the fans were mounted on the rad. Anyway, hopefully everything works well for you.

No, it's going to be a real pain in the A$$...but that was the only realistic location for me. I may have to extend the PS out the back a slight bit, but I'm hoping for the best.
 

Tweakin

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
can you stack a rad on top of that fesser like i did to my MCR here?

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...aigomorla/IMG_1311.jpg

quite honestly, any 120x2 radiator would handle 2 285GTX's.

problem is can you fit another RAD on top with fans and then split your loop up to dual loops with an additional pump?

I could stack a Single Rad there, but another dual and I would run into my sli configuration. Like I said, the case is small, and I can't find anyone who has modded it yet...so it became a challange for me.
 

Tweakin

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Originally posted by: PCTC2
Too bad you already have the Fesser. You could've gotten the new stackable Swiftech MCR220 and a standard MCR220 and ran a single loop with two pumps.

I'd say just toss the CPU on a 120.1 and use the TFC on the GTX285.

The TFC kicks the snot out of the Swiftech rads in low rpm configurations. The fin density of the Swiftech units is twice that of the TFC rads...