Progress is made through Liberalism, not Conservatism

[Matt1970]

Sorry, you don't represent the mainstream of anything but your own ego/bubble.

Get out some, pull the entitled stick from your ass. The 1950s are over Wally, and guess what? America was never like this garbage you spewed either back then.

And you do? Ever wonder why even the extreme left doesn't even agree with you much?

 

[sigurros81]

Pay for your own infrastructure. If it wasn't virtually impossible to create that infrastructure in the private sector, we'd have companies actually making money by providing public transportation. And the people who use it would be paying for it voluntarily, instead of stealing from everyone else to pay for it.

Here we go again.

 

[Steeplerot]

And you do? Ever wonder why even the extreme left doesn't even agree with you much?

I am banned from most "extreme left" debate sites because I am known as a "bourgeoisie individualist" or plain old "Liberal".

I don't play nice with actual radicals as by nature I am anti-propaganda of the deed. A far lefty, but not a lefty revolutionary who wants to "overthrow that shit". Folks here are mostly US corporate media consumers, this is why I seem left compared to USA Democrats, I guess. I don't think besides a few urban issues on infrastructure I am radical. Most of the stuff I like is old school liberal and contemporary.

The USA media just sucks at sharing new ideas around the world to keep the corporate status quo who have this place gamed in power.

If conservatism/capitalism is the almighty end all be all end all and final solution/product of human social ingenuity then you have nothing to worry about. Do you comrade?

 

[cwjerome]

Sorry, you don't represent the mainstream of anything but your own ego/bubble.

Get out some, pull the entitled stick from your ass. The 1950s are over Wally, and guess what? America was never like this garbage you spewed about "real 'murica" either back then ecept for a few whites who ran the show and made the plastic media culture you appeal to as the "one and only true legit culture" of the USA.

Your idea of the USA is a defense mechanism in your mind because because you are privileged enough to hide within.

For the rest of the actual real world your plastic fantasy is nothing but. The delusions of another arrogant entitled prick running his mouth.

LOL, look at you. I mention karate lessons and backyard BBQs are you blow a gasket, ranting about the 1950s and plastic media culture. Yes wacko, people take their kids to karate lessons (some even play soccer!), people buy BBQ grills and use them, and that plumber is drinking a $6 latte and that landscaper is taking his family to the beach. How disassociated can you possibly be from reality? Do you live in a basement? Your insane outlook and message isn't covered up by big outside forces and we aren't brainwashed. Myself, along with 10s of millions of other normal average people reject your fantasies because we are living, breathing proof that you're an idiot.

 

[Matt1970]

I am banned from most "extreme left" debate sites because I am known as a "bourgeoisie individualist" or plain old "Liberal".

I don't play nice with actual radicals as by nature I am anti-propaganda of the deed. A far lefty, but not a lefty revolutionary who wants to "overthrow that shit". Folks here are mostly US corporate media consumers, this is why I seem left compared to USA Democrats, I guess. I don't think besides a few urban issues on infrastructure I am radical. Most of the stuff I like is old school liberal and contemporary.

The USA media just sucks at sharing new ideas around the world to keep the corporate status quo who have this place gamed in power.

I am just spreading some of the "free market of ideas". Don't mind me comrades. If conservatism/capitalism is the almighty end all be all of human ingenuity then you have nothing to worry about. Do you?

If that is truly the way you see yourself than the history of your postings here do not concur. Even your last sentence contradicts what you just said. You lump conservatism and capitalism together like you somehow think most liberals are anti-capitalism. That just isn’t the case.

 

[Steeplerot]

LOL, look at you. I mention karate lessons and backyard BBQs are you blow a gasket, ranting about the 1950s and plastic media culture.

No, I think you are a elitist douche to say any of this represents "your view" you do not own US culture, nor does you sappy apple pie 1950s America even tie into reality. You represent a egotistical falsehood that "you" represent "stability" or "family" or "barbqs".

Massive entitlement trip to think you represent anyone but your delusions of "real 'murica" is.

 

[Steeplerot]

If that is truly the way you see yourself than the history of your postings here do not concur.

Go back about 10 years here, some of my first posts were telling you righties you were brainwashed morons by TV who were rooting for military contractor scams by falling for the jingoistic/divisive BS cheering on the war.

About half this forum have changed their views, I never have. And most of the time, in the long run I have been right. Maybe sometimes by accident, but whatever.

About a quarter of these liberals you despise on this forum hate my posts because back in the day they were conservatives before wising up.

 

[cwjerome]

No, I think you are a elitist douche to say any of this represents "your view" you do not own US culture, nor does you sappy apple pie 1950s America even tie into reality. You represent a egotistical falsehood that "you" represent "stability" or "family" or "barbqs".

Massive entitlement trip to think you represent anyone but your delusions of "real 'murica" is.

Who said anything about owning culture. I am part of the mainstream culture while you are a cork subculture bobbing in an ocean of normalcy. Your radical, fanatical, Marxist BS is generally ignored and sometimes ridiculed. That's it.

ps. It is not egotistical for me to say I'm average.

 

[Steeplerot]

I am part of the mainstream culture

Well golly gee Wally, appeals to white entitlement tradition always work -don't they? I mean the USA is not a generally socially liberal country of urban dwellers? Right?

Your "culture" is a manufactured story mostly projected from a few studios in NYC or Hollywood.

As I said, get out some. I have worked in the entertainment industry for ages, your idea of America is propaganda from a bunch of rich white guys in offices who make the shit up as they go along to keep up their hustle.

What a sucker you are.

 

[Mxylplyx]

All throughout modern history, there has been a constant struggle between conservatives who want to keep everything the way it is, and liberals who want to pull us forward, often at a pace that society is not prepared cope with. Liberalism always wins out in the end, and the world is better off for it. Look no further than the middle east for an example of conservatives controlling the pace of change in society.

 

[nehalem256]

All throughout modern history, there has been a constant struggle between conservatives who want to keep everything the way it is, and liberals who want to pull us forward, often at a pace that society is not prepared cope with. Liberalism always wins out in the end, and the world is better off for it. Look no further than the middle east for an example of conservatives controlling the pace of change in society.

Look no further than most urban areas for the society liberals endeavored to create.

 

[sigurros81]

Look no further than most urban areas for the society liberals endeavored to create.

Aren't you the idiot that said male and female physiological needs are the same?

 

[cwjerome]

Well golly gee Wally, appeals to white entitlement tradition always work -don't they? I mean the USA is not a generally socially liberal country of urban dwellers? Right?

Your "culture" is a manufactured story mostly projected from a few studios in NYC or Hollywood.

As I said, get out some.

Why do you have such a hatred of normalcy and the average? I grew up poor and now have an average income with a couple kids. I work in the poor neighborhood I grew up in teaching under-privileged, at-risk, students- 90% Latino. I am socially liberal and live in the 6th largest city in the US. What were you saying?

I serve my community through teaching and my country through the Army Reserve. Money is not a driving factor, in fact I after getting home from my most recent deployment I took this year off of teaching to stay home with my young kids and take more classes than usual. What were you saying?

You don't know me, I'm just a stereotype to you, a figment of your Marxist imagination. Entitlement not found. It bears repeating, the 10 of millions of normal people living middle class lives are walking proof that you're an idiot.

Your self-portrait was removed from the quote, btw.

 

[Steeplerot]

Why do you have such a hatred of normalcy and the average? .

Why do you think "normalcy" is what was your experience is? That you "own" it?

Because TV tells you so, as you live in a isolated bubbleworld of the "USA".

As I said, you don't even realize how arrogant/entitled you are to claim this. Very sad.

Conservatives, I hate to say it, but you guys really need to see therapists.

Sociopathic is the 21st century term for this kind of divisive tribalism.

It's not only anti-american but totally collectivist mindset.

You have a lot to learn about "personal liberty" outside of your little entitlement bubble.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think human progress these days is driven by two things, the power of our tools to observe more and more deeply into the reality around us coupled with the mind's ability to identify theories that explain the new data. That latter part is augmented by two different modes of thought:

"According to psychologist Seymour Epstein's cognitive-experiential self-theory, humans have two parallel but interacting modes of information processing. The rational system is analytic, logical, abstract, and requires justification via logic and evidence. In contrast, the experiential system is holistic, affective, concrete, experienced passively, processes information automatically, and is self-evidently valid (experience alone is enough for belief)."

 

[Steeplerot]

Your self-portrait was removed from the quote, btw.

I wouldn't be caught dead in tweed or flares.

 

[Steeplerot]

Nice spin. Progress through incompetence anyone?

Hey, just trying to appeal to what Conservatives understand -in the spirit of heartfelt bipartisanship of course mind you.

 

[JEDIYoda]

http://rt.com/news/french-ban-gm-crops-368/

proves nothing as usual...did you even read what you posted...rofl