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Professional Work Question? *Updated*

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Cal166

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While fixing her computer today, she told me that she needs to speak. I became a little nervous, she kicked the accountant out of her office and that made me even more nervous. So anyways it turns out that she wanted to talk to me about my future with this company. Am graduating next spring semester so am guessing that since I haven?t spoken to them about my future with the company, they thought they might loose me, so they want speak to me first. She said that I will slowly move into a position as a Project Manager.

I've been with this company 8 years this coming Christmas. I have been working full and part time with them. For the past couple of month I?ve been working as ON CALL duty because the company was doing badly. Haven?t gotten a raise in 2 years due to the firing of all my supervisors.

So what do you think a good starting salary would be for me?

I manage a mid-size network, work as a desktop support, some AutoCAD drawings, as copy boy and other crap for the company.

Will get my BS degree in Telecommunications (which what this company does)
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This question relates to my other post from yesterday.

Just came out of a meeting with the whole company, they said they will slowly work me into the position of Project Manager and when i graduate, i will be working full time.

My question is, should i be speaking to them about a raise? or my salary status NOW? or wait till i graduate with my BS degree and sit down with them to discuss it. Or should i talk to them about other things that i need?

What do you guys thing?


*Update: So i went into her office and spoke to her, she'll work on a job description and a wage range in the next two weeks. She will check the current market and see what other are offering for the position *
 
I'm probably not the best person to give you advice, but you could start by asking them if your salary would increase as you took on more responsibility and became project manager. The company I worked for at the end of 2002 and well into this year had originally hired me to be part of the normal team but as time went on they needed another Team Lead so I got promoted. I can't remember what I said exactly but I asked my boss if my pay would reflect my new title and sure enough he got the ball rolling and got me my raise.

If they are intent on keeping you then I don't think it should cause any harm to ask if your pay will change once you graduate.
 
wait till you have a degree and make sure you interview at other locations so they are not the only cards in your hand.
 
Originally posted by: Ameesh
wait till you have a degree and make sure you interview at other locations so they are not the only cards in your hand.
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I will sure do that. Thanks
 
Originally posted by: Ameesh
wait till you have a degree and make sure you interview at other locations so they are not the only cards in your hand.
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There you go. I was in a similar situation. When you are ready to more into the new position you should be able to talk to someone in HR (along with your supervisor) about your expected responsibilities. Also, make sure you have given them a salary proposal before that meeting, so they can review it and get a raise approved (hopefully).
 
Originally posted by: Kev
they wont increase your pay unless you ask
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Of course, am just wondering when is the best time to ask....now or after i get my degree and move into my position
 
Originally posted by: Cal166
Originally posted by: Kev
they wont increase your pay unless you ask
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Of course, am just wondering when is the best time to ask....now or after i get my degree and move into my position
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Ask now. Depending on their reply you could decide whether you want to stay with them or not.
 
With all this talk about being a PM, are you sure that's the direction you want to go ? THe PMs here are overworked... specifically... babysitting people and constantly getting on their back about timeframes, etc. I thought you did networking ?

So it comes down to... do you want to remain a techie or become a management type ?
 
Originally posted by: Cougar
I'm probably not the best person to give you advice, but you could start by asking them if your salary would increase as you took on more responsibility and became project manager. The company I worked for at the end of 2002 and well into this year had originally hired me to be part of the normal team but as time went on they needed another Team Lead so I got promoted. I can't remember what I said exactly but I asked my boss if my pay would reflect my new title and sure enough he got the ball rolling and got me my raise.

If they are intent on keeping you then I don't think it should cause any harm to ask if your pay will change once you graduate.
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If they are like any normal company, it is assumed that taking on a new position of higher responsibility will result in higher compensation. The question is how much. I would go ahead and ask them now what they expect this new position to pay. Tell them that you really enjoy working for their company and you are very interested in staying and taking on this new position, but with your graduation coming up, you really need to explore all of your options and opportunities.

Basically, you don't want them to think you are eager to leave, but you also don't want them thinking that you are going to stay no matter what. If they think you want to get out, they may not think it is worth keeping someone who really doesn't want to work there. But if they think you are not looking anywhere else, they may be inclined to lowball you, figuring you will take anything they offer.

It's a balancing act. You always want companies to think you are happy working for them and committed to them, but you also want them to know that you will consider leaving if they don't compensate you well and you have better opportunities elsewhere.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
With all this talk about being a PM, are you sure that's the direction you want to go ? THe PMs here are overworked... specifically... babysitting people and constantly getting on their back about timeframes, etc. I thought you did networking ?

So it comes down to... do you want to remain a techie or become a management type ?
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I will still be doing the techie work, will be doing all the same things i used to do but adding on some PM work. Am the type of person that would want to be told what to do and will get it done, never imagine myself telling other people what to do or get on their backs and never like the idea of managing people.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
What exactly is a BS in Telecommunications? Just curious, never heard of it before.
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Pretty much a Telecommunications Analyst, Systems Analyst, Network Manager, and First-Line supervisor.
 
Originally posted by: Cal166
Originally posted by: rh71
With all this talk about being a PM, are you sure that's the direction you want to go ? THe PMs here are overworked... specifically... babysitting people and constantly getting on their back about timeframes, etc. I thought you did networking ?

So it comes down to... do you want to remain a techie or become a management type ?
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I will still be doing the techie work, will be doing all the same things i used to do but adding on some PM work. Am the type of person that would want to be told what to do and will get it done, never imagine myself telling other people what to do or get on their backs and never like the idea of managing people.
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Then it sounds like they're just giving you the title.. if you don't actually have the responsibility of managing people, they won't compensate you for it. From the outside looking in, I think they're just waiving that title in front of you to get/keep you interested.

Beware the dead-end jobs. They're good for now... but if there's no corporate ladder to climb, you should always keep looking elsewhere while there.
 
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