Processor for Gaming

chelch

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Hello all. Just looking to upgrade my cpu and would like something new. My main activity is gaming. I was looking at the x2 processors but not sure if this would fit my needs. Would a single core be better. Thanks guys!

 

hennethannun

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for gaming, a fast single core (like the A64 4000+ which is now a bit over $100) will be the best for recent and current games. (assuming you have a socket 939 mobo).

for next gen games, dual-core will be an advantage, and the lowest X2 dual-cores are pretty attractive given that almost all of them can be overclocked to 2.6 ghz giving them competitve single threaded performance AND dual-core multi-tasking...

last i looked the 4200+ was only a few dollars more expensive than the 3800+, so that is where i would start looking
 

deadseasquirrel

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What does the rest of your system look like-- CPU, video card, power supply, monitor? At what resolution do you play when gaming? What games do you like to play (or plan to play)?

In general, depending on your playing resolution, your video card should be your focus when making sure you system is ready for gaming.

Since you're considering an upgrade to an X2, I'm assuming you have a socket939 AMD system currently. If that's the case, your current processor is likely good enough... again, depending on your playing resolution and what video card you have currently.
 

chelch

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Thanks for the replies. I havent upgraded in a while. I have an xp3200 as my current cpu. I am purchasing an nvidia 7950 GT in a few days. I play my games mainly at 1280x1024. My main concern was bad performance in games using a dual core as opposed to a single core. If performance is just about the same I will probably go with an 3800 x2 or soemthing like that.

 

myocardia

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Well, performance is exactly the same, assuming that both the single-core and the dual-core are running the same speed. The problem there is that a dual-core still costs more than twice as much money per Mhz.
 

deadseasquirrel

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That's true. For me, it's a bad upgrade. I play games at 1600x1200 and I have yet to see any difference a faster processor (or dual-core processor) would make at those settings, vs my 3000+ @ 2.5ghz and x1900xtx. As soon as I come across a game (or another app I care about) that will make a significant difference at that setting, I'll grab me an x2 s939 (likely the cheapest one I can find and oc it). But for my situation right now, it would be a wasted $100 upgrade (after selling my chip).
 

NoStateofMind

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Well I notice that with my E6400, when playing games, AVAST! doesn't bog or cause me to lose FPS like before.
 

Csst

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i use a X6800 dual core with ATI 1900XT on a westy 37in LCD.. and its the NUTS!!
 

996GT2

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A 4000+ would give you quite a boost ofer than 3200+ XP. More cache and faster clocks would certainly help at 1280*1024, and if you don't multitask often there isn't much point to get a dual-core CPU.
 

harpoon84

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Since you are still running a 3 year old Athlon XP chip, I take it you're not the kind that upgrades every 12 months?

If that is the case, then I strongly recommend dual core. More and more games will be multithreaded in the future, it's the only way the PC industry is going to gain performance because clockspeed improvements have stalled in the past couple of years.

An X2 chip is a good choice for budget dual core, but if you can afford it, the C2D line provides better gaming performance.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: 996GT2
A 4000+ would give you quite a boost ofer than 3200+ XP. More cache and faster clocks would certainly help at 1280*1024, and if you don't multitask often there isn't much point to get a dual-core CPU.

yeh, save your money now. Wait until games are released that will take advantage of dual core and quad core cpu's.
 

Swaye

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Greetings mate, i'm guessing this is still on topic but i was wondering is difference in performance between the E6400 and E6600 very significant? i'm looking to purchase a new pc during november and was wondering if i should cut cost ?
 

Hyperlite

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i still can't figure out why people insist on suggesting single core chips for gaming processors. you will be extremely hard pressed to find a game coming out after 2005 that will not be multithreaded. Developers have embraced dual core! people need to realize this!
 

Hyperlite

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Originally posted by: myocardia
Well, performance is exactly the same, assuming that both the single-core and the dual-core are running the same speed. The problem there is that a dual-core still costs more than twice as much money per Mhz.

that depends on the app....
 

imported_envy

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Hyperlite: Yeah? Which games released in 2006 and those planned for release in half a year support dual cores?
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Hyperlite
i still can't figure out why people insist on suggesting single core chips for gaming processors. you will be extremely hard pressed to find a game coming out after 2005 that will not be multithreaded. Developers have embraced dual core! people need to realize this!
There are 5 games availabe today, IIRC, that support dual-core with a patch. There has yet to be one that was actually written with SMP in mind. Now, some of the future games will definitely be SMP-enabled. I know that Crysis will be, and Alan Wake will be. Know some secrets that we don't?:roll:
 

chelch

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Ok. I found an athalon 64 4000 for 200 bucks. The description says ''san diego core'' . Can someone explain what the difference is between cores and why this one seems lower priced.
 

myocardia

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Chelch, if you live in America, that's an absolutely horrible price. Newegg has them for... Well, newegg doesn't have them right now. I paid $139 for the one I bought, about 2 or 2.5 months ago. Where do you live?

Anyway, a San Diego is the newest of the single cores, along with the Venice. It's a Venice, only all Venices have 512KB of L2 cache, and all San Diego's have 1MB of L2 cache. It's a good chip, and they usually overclock nicely, if that interests you.
 

Hyperlite

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Originally posted by: envy
Hyperlite: Yeah? Which games released in 2006 and those planned for release in half a year support dual cores?

FEAR, HL2, Prey IIRC, Oblivion, Company of Heros, pretty sure EQ2 was/is, though i may be wrong on that one. Crysis will be, Supreme Commander will be, UT2k7 will be....

sorry, i'm not usually a bandwagon-er, but i just think its kinda silly to be buying single core chips these days, if you can afford not to. didn't mean to sound like a know it all...
 

chelch

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Hey myocardia. I live in the US. Yea..that is weird. I checked newegg and they dont even carry the 64 4000 cpu. The search begins!! :)
 

GuitarDaddy

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The best deal on a single core CPU is the FX-55 at newegg for $139, it's the same San Diego core with 1mb cache as the 4000+ but its clocked higher at 2.6ghz and has the unlocked multi
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
The best deal on a single core CPU is the FX-55 at newegg for $139, it's the same San Diego core with 1mb cache as the 4000+ but its clocked higher at 2.6ghz and has the unlocked multi
It would have been, but it's $189 now: still a really good deal. Here's a Venice 3800, which is the same speed as a 4000, with half the L2 cache, for $109: link. It seems that the supply of 1MB socket 939's is already dwindling. A $109 3800 Venice would be a very good deal, though.
 

chelch

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Would the AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Windsor 2.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor be good for my gaming purposes?