Processor Card

[Yaotl]

well this is confusing. what do you mean by processor card exactly?

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: loki8481
it depends on the motherboard... I've used computers with no heatsink all the time. Not by choice, but sometimes, when all you need to do is see if a motherboard posts, finding and installing a heatsink is just too much of a pain in the ass. either way, were you to remove the CPU mid-operation, I'd expect to see an instant crash, and possibly a motherboard-frying power surge.

if you're talking about a PCI card... again, I've removed PCI cards when a computer is running. I've never had a problem because of it (thank god), but then again, it was only once and I had a total senior moment and forgot that the server I was working on was powered on. worst case scenario, you're looking at another possibly motherboard-frying power surge.

No modern CPU will post with no heatsink, and any AMD product would instantly burst into flame. Unless you are talking about Pre-Pentium hardware, you are lieing.

Sorry but you are wrong. the pentium 4 will run indefinitely without a heatsink. It is designed to do this. Remember tomshardware's thermal crisis video? It will clock itself down to only a few mhz but it will absolutely still run. Also, your comment about AMD is completely falacious. AMD now requires on die monitoring from its motherboard partners and has since the T-bred B introduction. The AMD cpu would most certainly not burst into flame. He may be lying but you need to stop spouting off when you are so ignorant on the subject matter.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: AIWGuru

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: loki8481
it depends on the motherboard... I've used computers with no heatsink all the time. Not by choice, but sometimes, when all you need to do is see if a motherboard posts, finding and installing a heatsink is just too much of a pain in the ass. either way, were you to remove the CPU mid-operation, I'd expect to see an instant crash, and possibly a motherboard-frying power surge.

if you're talking about a PCI card... again, I've removed PCI cards when a computer is running. I've never had a problem because of it (thank god), but then again, it was only once and I had a total senior moment and forgot that the server I was working on was powered on. worst case scenario, you're looking at another possibly motherboard-frying power surge.

No modern CPU will post with no heatsink, and any AMD product would instantly burst into flame. Unless you are talking about Pre-Pentium hardware, you are lieing.

Sorry but you are wrong. the pentium 4 will run indefinitely without a heatsink. It is designed to do this. Remember tomshardware's thermal crisis video? It will clock itself down to only a few mhz but it will absolutely still run. Also, your comment about AMD is completely falacious. AMD now requires on die monitoring from its motherboard partners and has since the T-bred B introduction. The AMD cpu would most certainly not burst into flame. He may be lying but you need to stop spouting off when you are so ignorant on the subject matter.

Oh i see, you must do this all the time then.

Pentium 4s will not run, they overheat and the motherboard kills the power to the chip. Thermal throttling just prevents damage to the chip. AMD has no thermal throttling on any athlon design, it is the motherboards responsibility to kill the power to the chip. I know for a fact Durons and Athlons both cook in about a quarter of a second on 1st gen nforce boards, and i see no updates in technology that would suggest that an A-64 would do any different.

The new motherboard requirement is on die monitoring, ok so they monitor the temps and have a 70c (default on most) kill switch for temps. So you power on an A-64 with no heatsink, before the 1st time the bios polls the chip temp (1 second) the chip is at 130c. Then the mobo senses the temp and kills the power. This garuntees prevention of damage to the chip?

Long story short, dont friggin do that. Ever.

 

[Special1Sauce]

No the Processor will survive It will just throttle itself down. I remember watching that on a Tom's Hardware video. He yanked the HSF off while playing Quake 3 and it just slowed down That is the P4 I mean

 

[sandorski]

Try it out and tell us(or better yet, video tape it)what happened!

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: Special1Sauce
No the Processor will survive It will just throttle itself down. I remember watching that on a Tom's Hardware video. He yanked the HSF off while playing Quake 3 and it just slowed down That is the P4 I mean

It throttled down then crashed. With no damage to the P4.

 

[AIWGuru]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: Special1Sauce
No the Processor will survive It will just throttle itself down. I remember watching that on a Tom's Hardware video. He yanked the HSF off while playing Quake 3 and it just slowed down That is the P4 I mean

It throttled down then crashed. With no damage to the P4.

No, it thorottled down and ran indefinitely.

The athlon turned off but still survived - like the p3.

We're talking about the updated video which takes into account AMD's new thermal guidlines to mobo makers, I assume? Not the two year old one?