probs with sharing broadband........

[shiggy]

I have two systems and tryin to share my broadband. I have my DSL modem plugged into my hub and both systems plugged into that hub and no luck. Is there anything else that i have to be doing?? One system i'm runnin win2k/win98se and the other just 98se. Any help would be great.

shiggy

 

[hausdave]

you can't plug fast access modem directly into hub..you need a cable/dsl router or two nic's in one machine with one connected to modem and other to hub....

 

[Narse]

<< you can't plug fast access modem directly into hub..you need a cable/dsl router or two nic's in one machine with one connected to modem and other to hub.... >>



Not completly true, I have mindspring DSL using PPOE via RASPPOE and use a cross over cable from DSL modem into my switch and then load RAS on all systems in my network and they all connect.

 

[NelsonMuntz]

hausdave's right. Can you hook two NICs into one of the two computer (the WinMe one) and have the DSL modem hooked to one and the other going to the hub. Then you should be able to load Internet Connection Sharing on the Me machine which will produce a disk that you can take to the Win98 machine and set it up.

 

[Narse]

<< hausdave's right. Can you hook two NICs into one of the two computer (the WinMe one) and have the DSL modem hooked to one and the other going to the hub. Then you should be able to load Internet Connection Sharing on the Me machine which will produce a disk that you can take to the Win98 machine and set it up. >>




Here is an exaple of my setup.
3 PC running win2k
Connect each PC to Hub or switch, setup private network IPs (ie 192.168.0.1, 192.168.0.2 etc)
Make a crossover cable and connect DSL modem to HUB. Make sure you get a link light on the HUB.

Then load RASPPOE onto each machine(this is only if your ISP uses PPOE as its DSL protocol. If it does not this will not work.)

Most DSL ISP allow 2-3 ip to be pulled down for the same account, this is not true for cable, only about 25% of cable ISP allow more than one IP per home account.

Use RAS and have it make a connection for the NIC card in your machine, plug in your user ID and pass in the newly made dial up connection and you are on.

This works for all 3 of my systems at home, And I have set up a few of my friends like this as well

 

[crzyc]

hub and a crossover cable would be the same as two nic's i think

 

[konichiwa]

<< into my switch and then load RAS on all systems in my network and they all connect. >>

A switch is not the same as a hub.

 

[Mapidus]

Narse77:

Your actually not getting 3 ips from the DSL provider. Most DSL modems support only 1 ip and some support 2 ips, but this cost extra. Most cable modems will support 5+ ips, but you have to pay 5-10 dollars a month normally to get them.

What you are actually seeing is that your DSL modem does NAT routing when running in PPP mode. Many DSL modems have built in NAT when not in bridged mode. This is why you have those 192.168.0.X addresses on your local segment.

Shiggy: Which modem do you have and are you running in PPP mode. This may help us give you advice on how to do the hookup. Maybe your modem already supports NAT, but if not then you will have to use either software NAT or buy a hardware NAT router.

 

[pay]

Just buy a 4 port switch router.. they're like $99 these days

Edit: They also have a built in HUB!

 

[Narse]

<< Narse77:

Your actually not getting 3 ips from the DSL provider. Most DSL modems support only 1 ip and some support 2 ips, but this cost extra. Most cable modems will support 5+ ips, but you have to pay 5-10 dollars a month normally to get them.

What you are actually seeing is that your DSL modem does NAT routing when running in PPP mode. Many DSL modems have built in NAT when not in bridged mode. This is why you have those 192.168.0.X addresses on your local segment.

Shiggy: Which modem do you have and are you running in PPP mode. This may help us give you advice on how to do the hookup. Maybe your modem already supports NAT, but if not then you will have to use either software NAT or buy a hardware NAT router. >>




I set the local addresses, Also Ras sets up a network adaptyer and using ipconfig /all I get seperate external ip addressess on each PC. Anyone is welcome to stop by if your in the Atlanta Area, By the way my DSL modem is in Bridge mode

 

[Narse]

<< << into my switch and then load RAS on all systems in my network and they all connect. >>

A switch is not the same as a hub. >>



Technicaly your right since a switch only broadcasts data on the port a packet is intended for and a Hub broadcasts data on all ports. Both work in my case hub or switch. Switch just gives me better local performance

 

[Pauli]

Oh, for crying out loud, just get a cheap 4-port DSL Router/Switch for less than USD$100 and be done with it! What a pain it is to mess with ICS and multiple NICs!