Problems with new 6800

NightFalcon

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Just got my Leadtek 6800 card, first removed the old drivers, restarted, used the driver cleaning tool, shutdown, then installed the new card. Installed drivers 61.77, one more restart, then reconfigured my displays. Now the first thing I did was run 3DMark03 and got a score of around 8400, don't remember the exact one, but that seems reasonable.

Now I just tried to launch FarCry. First of all, when I tried doing auto-detect on the video settings it set everything to the lowest possible (???). Fine, I set everything manually, then launched the game. While the fps seem to be just fine, the first scene in the cave all lighting is screwed up... Everything is glowing and really bring, which definitely shouldn't be.

Anyone know what this might be?

Oh and I forgot to mention that I did install DX 9.0c.
 

EvilComputer92

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You should try a game besides Far Cry, the issue in the cave looks like something related to gamma. Did you notice anything similar in 3Dmark 03? Also make sure you have the latest patch for Far Cry.
 

jimithing2077

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I dont know if everyone is suppose to do this, but I had a similar problem with my PNY 6800nu. The one thing I did to fix it was that I installed the video card drivers AFTER I installed DX 9.0c...not sure if that'll fix it but you could try..

Also, what is the latest patch you are using for FarCry?
 

NightFalcon

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I don't think I ever pactched FarCry so that may be my problem, but I have just tried Doom 3, and while I see no problems with the lighting I get about 10 fps during the first scene with the ship flying away. Not to mention that it also auto-dects best settings at medium quality and 640x480... I don't get it.

Didn't notice anything like this on 3DMark and I did install the drivers after DX 9.0c, so don't think that's the reason.
 

NightFalcon

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I'll give you guys all my specs, you tell me what settings I should be able to play FarCry and Doom 3 on:

P4 3.0C
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Corsair PC3200 2x512MB in dual-channel.
Leadtek 6800 128MB
Creative Audigy 2 ZS

Now I know my CPU isn't top of the line anymore, but 640x480??? And it does run just fine with that and on Medium Quality, but this isn't why I bought a 6800...
 

EvilComputer92

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No doubt something screwy is going on here.

You should be able to play at around 1280x1024 with all detail at max on both games.

The best thing I can think of is that either your drivers have gotten screwed up, or that you have a defective 6800.
Use driver cleaner and then install the latest drivers from the Nvidia website.
 

NightFalcon

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Well I just applied the 1.2 patch and lighting seems to be good now. But the best I can do is 1024x768 and medium texture quality. On 1280x1024 it's completely unplayable. I don't know... I'll be reinstalling XP this weekend, maybe it's a driver issue that will be fixed after the reinstall.
 

Aleksandar

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we got prety much the same spec i can do 1024X768 everything se to max
on some maps i get 40-80fps on some i get 20-60 or so

and we are still not using Ps3.0 yes the pach v1.2 got it but you gotta activate it and it is a beta
and the drivers need some work to hope it will be done soon
 

NightFalcon

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Ran the 3DMark 2003 test again to get an exact number: 8577

Does that seem reasonable to you guys? I tested on 1024x768 with everything turned off, no AA, no AF, no vsync, or anything else... Was running without any noticeable issues, but dropped down to 15 fps during the start of the nature test and down to as low as 5 during that test with the lady and the sword :) Otherwise I didn't notice any problems with the visuals, but there was a problem with the sound tests... It ran the first one (no sound) fine, but on the second one it loaded it but crashed after the first frame. Happened the first time I ran it as well. This is using the latest version of 3D Mark, do you guys know why that is?
 

Postumus

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doom 3 should be playable smoothly at ultra quality and at 1280 or 1024 res otherwise something is wrong
 

NightFalcon

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Ultra quality with a 6800? Not sure about that one, remember reading something about 128MB not being enough, but right now it's definitely not coming even close. Anyway, just tried playing Counter-Strike (the original, not the Source :)), and that seems to perform worse then my old GF4 Ti4400 :eek:

I always play with vsync on and while with Ti4400 I could get a steady 60 fps with my monitor refreshing at 60 Hz, the 6800 seems to jump between 60 and 40 fps for no reason. Also, while if I was to run through a smoke nade with Ti4400, that thing would completely die and go down to about 10 fps, this one doesn't, but it still drops to about 30 which isn't right at all. When I disabled vsync I could get a steady 72 fps (which is the software limit that I don't bother changing), and with smoke nades (about 5 at the same time) I still got around 50-60 fps (which is good). What's going on here???
 

legatech

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I got my 6800 yesterday, chaintech aa6800, out of the box i was getting over 21000 with 3dmark 2001, and over 10000 with 03, doom 3 runs at high quality 1600x1200 2xaa with no sticking. i had the exact same problem with farcry even with my 5900tx till i patched it. the second problem i had with farcry was the game was not running well at allor it would just freeze. i was able to get into task manager and noticed that 'cthelper.exe' from the creative audigy2 zs was using up all the cpu resources. so if i have to play it i just stop the task before and the game runs smooth @ 1024x768 very high quality aa@max af@max.

the only thing is can tell you to try is to use 'msconfig' and remove everything from start up to limit d amount of things sucking up resources and see if that works. if it does work you'll have to put them back on one by one till you find the culprit, and get rid ot it. if that does not , providing drivers, windows, and other hardware are in order, its best you go ahead and reinstall( i would try 9.0b first and see how it runs before you step up to 9.0c.
 

NightFalcon

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Chaintech uses faster memory (2.2 vs 2.8) if I remember correctly. I just overclocked both GPU and memory about 10% and got a new score of 9119, don't think I'm going to go any higher then this. Judging by the way 3DMark behaves I'm starting to think that it's nothing to do with DirectX or even the drivers. Those scores seem to be right where they should be, the visual quality is great, so right now I'm starting to suspect something else in my PC, but that previous test I ran was without anything else running. Might be the audio card for me as well, that I didn't check yet.
 

Aleksandar

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yeah i moded my bios 350/770 and all just let it be 3d mark is like 9300+ aqua mark like 53000+ so am ok
farcry i love it doom i just uninstalled it is pissing me off it works fine but man so many monsters killing me in a sec.... oh and doom 3 runs at 60fps constant maby some limit i dont know at 1024X7 high quality
 

NightFalcon

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What AA and AF settings? Though for me those don't really matter... 1024x768 at high quality is 10 fps, even in the bio-scan booth... I mean there isn't all that much to render there, but it slows down beyond belief.

Anyway, I'm sure this will be fixed with a reformat. By 3DMark scores are fine so it has to be something else. When I reinstall Win XP I'll only install the firewall, SP2, video drivers, audio drivers and fire it up. Hopefully with different results.
 

crowbait

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I just came across a link to Chaintech's Korean page and they list the memory as 2.8ns. Newegg's
specs should be taken with a grain of salt. HTH crowbait
 

NightFalcon

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I just ran the PCMark04 test and got 5032 on the video. Does that seem ok or lower then it should be?
 

reallyscrued

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farcry gave me medium settings on the 1.1 patch. It was still jittery outside, diped below 25 fps, i now run everything at ultra high except texture (128 mb memory) and it played the same, i guess im bottlenecked by something. probably my 512 megs of ram. i came to the conclusion that the engine is crap. its beautiful, but very powerful computer is needed to render what doom3 or half life 2 could do with a less powerful computer. my computer that can run UT2k4 at holy sh!t settings above 50 fps should be able to run farcry decently at medium settings.
 

reallyscrued

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oh and one more thing, its MUUCCHHH smoother inside with 1.2 patch on my 6800NU. ( found it somewhere) i can run the research timedemo at 80 fps when i got 50 fps on 1.1. but the other timedemo which is outside, i lost frames. aparently, outside is slower, inside is faster. god i hate\love this game.
 

Aleksandar

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reallyscrued what are your system spec?
I will give my card like 5 months then all do the voltage mod on it all overclock the s#it out of it
then when it is dead all get a new one :)
 

legatech

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Have the same card i got mine to run at 425 / 825 but i have a vantec spectrum fan card directly below it for extra cooling. did you try to go higher, i went up to 875 on the memory but got some artifacts and a lower 3dmark score
 

NightFalcon

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Well guys I just re-formatted and re-installed my system... Updated to SP2 as well. Only installed the drivers, firewall, and a/v... Installed 3DMark03 and ran just the game tests without touching any of the video or 4dMark settings.

My score this time was 8764... Same thing. Will try Doom 3 tomorrow and see how it goes, but something tells me that there will be no change. No idea how others are getting way better without OCing. DX 9.0c was already installed after SP2 upgrade, so couldn't try it with 9.0b. Could it be the drivers? I'm using the latest ones from the nvidia site (61.77). On the old system I gave 66.00 a try (from guru3d), but those things gave me a blue screen of death at system boot. Had to load into safe mode and remove them. What drivers are you guys using?