Problems with my new MSI Ti4400. Please help...AnAndAustin? :) Confirmed something.

[FluxCap]

Well the card has been great so far except for a few strange things. It is just rebooting now during certain games only and sometimes at certain points. Here are the examples from my limited testing so far.

NoOne Lives Forver 2 demo: it happens right when I click the talk button at the first bridge, second robot bird part. No matter what, every time.

Aquanox: About any time within 5 minutes of playing, but not on the menus just actual gameplay.

Battlefield 1942 demo and UT2K3 demo: Never. Not sure why this is but it has me confused.


I was thinking my new card is sucking too much juice and rebooting it because I have read stuff on this forum about that but my power supply is 300W so it should be fine, right? I have an Asus K7M motherboard that does not support AGP 4x or higher obviously so not sure if it is the AGP bus or not.

Also, if anyone knows about the MSI Tools tab in display properties let me know. The software came with my card and on that tab it says for AGP speed 1x. There is also the 2x and 4x check boxes but it will not let me change it to one of those. I really hope it is my motherboard, well not actually, but I just don't want it to be my new card.


Anyway, I am looking for advice of any kind or any experiences that anyone wants to share. I am having a great time with my new card and I hate to see it spoiled.

Thanks

 

[Mem]

Could be a few things so I`ll give you a list,power supply could be the problem,did you remove all your old 3DFX drivers? The only sure way is a reformat of OS,did you install the latest AMD AGP 5.33 driver from here ,few BIOS tweaks won`t do no harm,disable all video shadowing,disable video ram cacheable,disable system bios cacheable.

You could try latest official Nvidia drivers(30.82 drivers I recommend) from Nvidia.com,btw remove all MSI drivers/software first if you do.

 

[FluxCap]

I removed all 3dfx drivers.
I thought 300w power supply was fine?
I don't think I meet the requirements for that agp download. K7M is getting to be a very old mobo.

 

[Mem]

300w should be fine but you don`t say if it`s generic or quality brand?...As for the download you board does meet the requirments ,your board is a sporting the AMD 751 Northbridge chipset and the VIA 686A Southbridge.In the download it says

REQUIREMENTS:

Motherboard with AMD-751, AMD-761, or AMD-762 System Controller (Northbridge), Windows 2000/XP, AGP video card

You`ve an AMD 751 chipset,you`ve Win2K and AGP card(GF4 TI4400) so meet the requirements.

 

[FluxCap]

Oh, thanks for the tip on my board. I should have known that but...

I downloaded it but don't see a difference yet. I am thinking maybe I have to update my mobo bios so my card will get off 1x AGP? (It has been a long time since I flashed bios / I have the update already downloaded but I am nervous to do it.

My power supply is an ANTEC 300W. Sorry I forgot to mention that.

What all does the latest AGP driver do for me?

 

[Mem]

The latest AMD 5.33 driver should improve stability and performance slightly with your AGP card & Win2K ,it should always be installed,just like any other motherboard chipset drivers.You should check in bios you`ve 2X AGP enabled as well since your board does support that.

Bios flashing info


here

 

[FluxCap]

New problem: I just played about 30 minutes of No One Lives Forever 1 and things were going fine until the sound went out completely and my machine had to be rebooted to get it back. Second problem: It just completely froze and I had to reboot after that. This is going to be very frustrating it seems. It just has to be my new card in combination with my motherboard because I have never had problems like this.

 

[FluxCap]

I just went and changed video apeture size from 64mb to 128mb in my motherboard bios. Not sure if it will do anything just thought I would mention it. I am still looking for a place to disable the other stuff you mentioned in your original post. Will disabling those things take away from visual quality or do you recommend that change for everyone?


Almost forgot, I am using 30.82 drivers.

Thanks

 

[Mem]

This sort of problem is trial and error it could be hardware or software problem,I would reformat and do a clean install of OS,you could try the video card in another PC but that won`t tell you if it will work fine in your board ,PSU wise well Antec 300w should be enough but never rule anything out, anyway you could try a higher wattage like 350w Antec etc if you can borrow one as last resort.

All you can do with your board is have the latest BIOS update and try a clean install of OS and take it from there.

 

[FluxCap]

Well, I hate to do a clean install of everything considering the amount of files I have on this hard drive. (no cd burner either) Why does my motherboard bios not have the AGP setting for me to change? Also, where do I disable the other things you mentioned?

 

[Mem]

Check your manual,since BIOS features and settings are different for each brand/board etc,however on my Epox it`s in "Advanced Chipsets features".If you don`t have a manual you should be able to download one from Asus website,or just go in your BIOS and have a look,you may not have all the BIOS options I`ve listed .

 

[Viper96720]

Get rivatuner or similar and disable fast writes and side band addressing if enabled. That'll add some stability to the card. 300w should be fine if its not generic and you don't have a lot of hardware.

 

[FluxCap]

Well, I was about to post how I figured out my problem but it looks like I was wrong. I disabled 2x AA and I finished the No One Lives Forever 2 demo and played Aquanox for about 40 minutes which was about 4 times longer than before. BUT this morning I started up Aquanox single player story mode and it rebooted about 4 minutes into it. Oh well, I will just keep looking I guess.

 

[OnionGulch]

Have same card. Running fine on a ASUS a7a266 mb, althon 1.3 o\c 1.45, video card 300\608. No problem playing Jedi Outcast and Aquanox at 1280 x 1024 2xAA. Haven't tried NoOne Lives Forver 2.

Also, if anyone knows about the MSI Tools tab in display properties let me know. The software came with my card and on that tab it says for AGP speed 1x. There is also the 2x and 4x check boxes but it will not let me change it to one of those. I really hope it is my motherboard, well not actually, but I just don't want it to be my new card.

I tried to change the 4x tab to 2x or 1x, wouldn't let me. I think this window is just showing what settings it found in your BIOS. In my BIOS, APG speed is set at 4x mode and that whats check in the MSI information window. My APG speed setting is right next to the APG video apeture size ( mine set for 128 ) and the fast write ( disable ), so you might take another look in your BIOS and see if you can found the APG speed setting and change it to 2x or 4x.

The one problem I've had with this card is trying to carture video from are video camera. I patch the video out from the camera into the video in on the adapter for the video card and when I turn on the camera, I just get skinny white lines dancing across the recording window in WinProducer and Virtualdub. Anybody run into this problem with a Geforce4 video card[Question]

 

[OnionGulch]

Just a thought after reading your last message: Is your computer running hot or in a room that on the warm side? My other, older computer on a hot summer afternoon ( 90 degree and swamp cooler not keeping the house cool ) would lockup in some games. But if I play them in the morning before it got to hot, I didn't have any problems.

 

[FluxCap]

Room tempature is good but thanks for mentioning it. My case cover is actually off until I figure this out. My close friends at work have some similar problems and they seem to think a 400w PSU will fix it because it did for them. I will try that but I would also like to keep messing with software since that is more of my knowledge base.

 

[FluxCap]

Well I am totally shocked about something. I just did over 2 hours of testing on UT2K3 and after all that time (including benchmarks at multiple resolutions) and large scale online play I didn't have a single lockup or reboot. It ran flawless to the point I am very happy with how the full version will run. When I came home from work my 3d fish screensaver was even locked up. I just don't understand why UT2K3 with the latest and best technology is immune to my reboots. Anyway, I guess some things are a mystery with computers.