Problem with new 2407FPW *UPDATE WITH NEW QUESTION*

Ichigo

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In xtknight's image test, the one picture with the tree and the bridge is a bit messed. Looking at the monitor straight on (assuming the picture is in the centre of the monitor), the centre of the picture is too dark. If I look at the picture from the right or left, it becomes perfect. So... what to do?

Edit: Also, I cant access a few options like sharpness and stuff.

Edit2:http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4171/p1290221le6.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/783/p1290220lb0.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6309/p1290223kh7.jpg

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Also, if I run a game at 1280x720, the monitor isn't scaling it up nor do I have a scaling option. It's greyed out. Normal resolution work fine with scaling, save 1600x1200, but widescreen resolutions below 1920x1080 won't scale.
 

xtknight

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How the image appears at the faded left and right angles isn't important...you need to calibrate for how it looks in front of you.
 

Ichigo

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I understand. But I have no idea how to calibrate the image so that it looks accurate in front of me. I, as mentioned, can't even figure out how to calibrate it. The Sharpness and widescreen aspect options are greyed out. I also don't know what the options in the service menu do, so I've left them alone for now. Care to elucidate? =p
 

xtknight

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Doesn't the Dell lack contrast settings in DVI? In that case all you can adjust is brightness (and gamma in software). Sharpness wouldn't do anything for making that picture look better unless it was blurry. It is testing dark saturation though. Do set the monitor to Desktop mode. Multimedia mode is the devil. ;) Even though it may make the image look better, the rest of the gradient will be very unbalanced. I guess ACC is fine.

I assume you're talking about the test here (taken in Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, Market Garden): http://lcdresource.com/images/mg-darktest.jpg

There shouldn't be that much of a difference between the dark elements, but you should be able to distinguish them. If you're in a game and you can't tell there's a tree there, that'd be a problem. If you can tell there's a tree there, it doesn't really matter how contrasted it is. It is contrasted enough that you won't be at a disadvantage. I hope you can tell the dark green tree from the blue sky, but I think you know what I mean. It's hard to distinguish the bottom of the tree from the ledge.
 

Ichigo

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Okay, I adjusted gamma and it's a lot better now. Before it was difficult to differentiate between the tree and the ledge looking at it straight on, but now it's fine. I'm assuming that the monitor is still okay, even though I had to adjust gamma through software. No dead pixels. No noticeable backlight bleeding. I can see stepping if I'm looking at pure gradients, but otherwise it's not something that I will be hung over. Any easy way to calibrate colour by the way? I think it's accurate enough, but I wouldn't mind wasting some timing playing around with colour settings using some cheap and easy method.
 

xtknight

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Yeah, it takes lots of gamma adjustment to make it so it's not washed out (sometimes by modifying different points on the gamma curve). The method is free, but it's tedious and difficult. You can use the NVIDIA color correction settings to make an "advanced" gamma curve. If you have ATI, use RivaTuner's gamma adjustments to do the same thing.
 

Ichigo

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So I'm wondering if this effect can be considered "normal". The first two pictures show what's up with it. Should I consider RMA'ing it?
 

xtknight

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Effect as in the wash-out from the left/right angles? Perfectly normal for any variety of MVA LCD like the Dell. TNs get darker from side to side, and S-IPS LCDs don't show much effect at all. If you're talking about gamma, wash-out (even at zero degrees) is to be expected as well without comprehensive adjustments, best done with a hardware calibrator.
 

Ichigo

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Not the washout. The viewing angles from the side are okay. The whole reason I was worrying was because that looking at a picture straight on, detail in dark areas are lacking contrast. This, in addition to the gradient problem and the fact that the left side is noticeably brighter than the right, I think I might be RMA'ing this thing.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Ichigo
Not the washout. The viewing angles from the side are okay. The whole reason I was worrying was because that looking at a picture straight on, detail in dark areas are lacking contrast. This, in addition to the gradient problem and the fact that the left side is noticeably brighter than the right, I think I might be RMA'ing this thing.

Well, the test images are supposed to be difficult. You wouldn't RMA your CPU because it didn't perform well on 3DMark would you? :)
 

Ichigo

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Well, I would if I got ~1000 when I'm supposed to get ~5000. =p

Right now, the gradient and uneven backlight are bugging me more. I suspect the uneven backlight is the source of my complaints. The picture, looked at staight on, has different levels of washedoutness if it's to the left of the monitor as opposed to the right. That shouldn't happen.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Ichigo
Well, I would if I got ~1000 when I'm supposed to get ~5000. =p

Right now, the gradient and uneven backlight are bugging me more. I suspect the uneven backlight is the source of my complaints. The picture, looked at staight on, has different levels of washedoutness if it's to the left of the monitor as opposed to the right. That shouldn't happen.

Yeah. I suppose you should take advantage of the Dell 21-day policy then.
 

Ichigo

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Originally posted by: Ichigo
Will do then. Thanks for all the help.

And sorry for the ongoing questions but, I still need to get the widescreen scaling thing worked out. All the 4:3 and 1280x1024 resolutions scale fine sans 1600x1200. However, none of the widescreen resolutions below 1920x1080 scale. The just stay at 1:1. The options are greyed out.
 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: Ichigo
Originally posted by: Ichigo
Will do then. Thanks for all the help.

And sorry for the ongoing questions but, I still need to get the widescreen scaling thing worked out. All the 4:3 and 1280x1024 resolutions scale fine sans 1600x1200. However, none of the widescreen resolutions below 1920x1080 scale. The just stay at 1:1. The options are greyed out.

I have no idea, as I don't own a 2407. You can use graphics card scaling if you have an NVIDIA.