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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Click Start > Run and type cmd in the Open box, then click OK. Tada, you got a command-prompt box now :)

Type ipconfig /all in the command-prompt window and it'll tell a variety of things including the IP addresses of your DNS servers. Mine are 66.239.255.15 and 66.239.255.16.

Now you can type ping 66.239.255.15 and likewise for the other one (use your DNS servers' IP addresses for your test), and see if they get replies, or if they time out.

ok, thanks. This is what I got:

packets sent: 4 packets received: 4 pactets lost: 4 (0% loss)

round trip times of 1ms for minimum, maximum and average
 

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That's some strange results :confused: What are the IP addresses of your DNS servers there?
 
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Originally posted by: mechBgon
That's some strange results :confused: What are the IP addresses of your DNS servers there?

I only have 1 DNS server ip and its listed as the same as the router ip config.

192.168.0.1

could this be the problem?
 

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Hmmmkay. I wonder if your router has taken on the job of running DNS but does not have live DNS servers upstream of it. Could you do this: turn off the router and unplug it. Submerge it in a bucket of water-- NO WAIT, that part comes later. :eek: Now let it sit for about 30 seconds and turn it back on. What I'm thinking is maybe it just didn't pick up the IP addresses of the ISP's DNS servers from the modem, and so it doesn't know where to go with your computer's DNS requests.
 
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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Hmmmkay. I wonder if your router has taken on the job of running DNS but does not have live DNS servers upstream of it. Could you do this: turn off the router and unplug it. Submerge it in a bucket of water-- NO WAIT, that part comes later. :eek:

lol, I was reading..."ok, I can do that(unplug) then "WTF" lol

Now let it sit for about 30 seconds and turn it back on. What I'm thinking is maybe it just didn't pick up the IP addresses of the ISP's DNS servers from the modem, and so it doesn't know where to go with your computer's DNS requests.

Ill unplug it and let her sit for a min. Why would a select few sites respond ok though? or is that something different? BRB in a few...
 

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What else you might do, is simply find a couple of stable DNS servers' IP addresses, go to your network connection in Control Panel, and set the DNS server IP addresses manually. You could try that with my ISP's DNS servers if you like.

Or disable your router's DNS "middleman" feature so it simply passes along any DNS stuff to the modem, that's what I'd do. Not knowing your router's configuration menus, however, I'm not sure what exactly you're looking for in there.
 
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Posting from my 2nd computer...after unpluging the router/then back in...nothing seems to load for me on my other computer.
 
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Originally posted by: mechBgon
What else you might do, is simply find a couple of stable DNS servers' IP addresses, go to your network connection in Control Panel, and set the DNS server IP addresses manually. You could try that with my ISP's DNS servers if you like.

Or disable your router's DNS "middleman" feature so it simply passes along any DNS stuff to the modem, that's what I'd do. Not knowing your router's configuration menus, however, I'm not sure what exactly you're looking for in there.

Ill work on the first part...going into my router configuration I can't find anything about DNS except for if I want to set up a dynamic DNS.

edit: when setting it manually, what do I set it to?
 

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darn, I thought we'd be rid of him for sure! :p

On your second computer, what's it got for DNS servers, the router's IP address again? On the other one, try manually setting the DNS servers to the IP addresses of my ISP's DNS servers, that would be right-click the network connection > Properties > TCP/IP properties.
 
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Originally posted by: mechBgon
darn, I thought we'd be rid of him for sure! :p

On your second computer, what's it got for DNS servers, the router's IP address again? On the other one, try manually setting the DNS servers to the IP addresses of my ISP's DNS servers, that would be right-click the network connection > Properties > TCP/IP properties.

:) Set it to these; 66.239.255.15 and 66.239.255.16?

I tried looking that up, but cmd doesn't work in win 98 it seems.
 

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Oh, this is Win98? :confused: Then you can do Start > Run > winipcfg (speeled just like that) and it'll bring up a little boxlet with info.
 
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Originally posted by: mechBgon
Oh, this is Win98? :confused: Then you can do Start > Run > winipcfg (speeled just like that) and it'll bring up a little boxlet with info.

only on my "2nd computer" xp pro on the one that doesn't work. BUT I put in your IP for the DNS and it works!
 

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That's good news then :cool: I bet that was getting to a real nuisance already.
 

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Originally posted by: mechBgon
That's good news then :cool: I bet that was getting to a real nuisance already.

so wait? I just leave it pointing to your DNS servers? :confused:
There's no harm in that, as far as I know of. But out of curiosity, what DNS address is your Win98 box getting assigned, is it the router also? Or is it an outside server?

You could try to find out what your ISP's DNS servers' addresses are if you'd rather be using yours, it might even reduce response time a little, but I don't think they give a hoot whose computer asks for a DNS lookup, that's what the public DNS system is for.
 
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its pointing to another IP besides the router...which ill change this one to point to the same one.

Mech, you're a godsend...thank you very much. :)