Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I find it amusing how they call them Pro-U.S. rallies... looks like they are trying to make anti war rallies anti US.
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I find it amusing how they call them Pro-U.S. rallies... looks like they are trying to make anti war rallies anti US.
Been to a lot of peace rallies eh? A selection of pictures can depict anything.Originally posted by: Jimbo
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I find it amusing how they call them Pro-U.S. rallies... looks like they are trying to make anti war rallies anti US.
Considering the typical sign that you see at an Anti-War rally, that would be an easy mistake to make.
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99% of the anti-war people you might talk to wouldn't say either of these things. They fully support our troops and simply don't agree with military force being used to resolve the conflict with Hussein. I'm kinda tired of it being spun the other way in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement, quite frankly.Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I find it amusing how they call them Pro-U.S. rallies... looks like they are trying to make anti war rallies anti US.
Anybody who calls our troops murders and baby killers, are ani-US IMO.
Originally posted by: Fausto1
99% of the anti-war people you might talk to wouldn't say either of these things. They fully support our troops and simply don't agree with military force being used to resolve the conflict with Hussein. I'm kinda tired of it being spun the other way in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement, quite frankly.Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I find it amusing how they call them Pro-U.S. rallies... looks like they are trying to make anti war rallies anti US.
Anybody who calls our troops murders and baby killers, are ani-US IMO.
Well, you're always going to have the contingent that thinks they need to have outrageous signs to draw attention to themselves and "shock" people into thinking differently about the war, but most (if you talk to them) wouldn't ever say anything directly condemning the troops. No one wants another post-vietnam situation here at home.Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: Fausto1
99% of the anti-war people you might talk to wouldn't say either of these things. They fully support our troops and simply don't agree with military force being used to resolve the conflict with Hussein. I'm kinda tired of it being spun the other way in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement, quite frankly.Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I find it amusing how they call them Pro-U.S. rallies... looks like they are trying to make anti war rallies anti US.
Anybody who calls our troops murders and baby killers, are ani-US IMO.
Guess we just have the whacko up here, cuz there have been groups of them with these signs for the last few months.
True, some of them aren't as I described, but the majority around here are... that is how I judge.
Yeah, you're right, the other side would NEVER spin things...Originally posted by: Fausto1
99% of the anti-war people you might talk to wouldn't say either of these things. They fully support our troops and simply don't agree with military force being used to resolve the conflict with Hussein. I'm kinda tired of it being spun the other way in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement, quite frankly.Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I find it amusing how they call them Pro-U.S. rallies... looks like they are trying to make anti war rallies anti US.
Anybody who calls our troops murders and baby killers, are ani-US IMO.
The rally I was at last week had no crazy signs, most simply just said no war or something about peace. None said the military was baby killers. I'm not for this war but I have nothing but respect for our troops. All the anti-war people I know (and honestly I don't know anyone who's pro-war here at college, nor my parents or grandparents) respect our military. Sick of being called anti-American for excercising my right to free speech.Originally posted by: Jugernot
Guess we just have the whacko up here, cuz there have been groups of them with these signs for the last few months.
True, some of them aren't as I described, but the majority around here are... that is how I judge.
I never said it didn't go both ways. I merely pointed out that there has been a concerted effort to nullify the anti-war movement by portraying all of its participants as psychos. The other side has done the same thing by yammering about Bush being a "warmonger".Originally posted by: BoberFett
Yeah, you're right, the other side would NEVER spin things...Originally posted by: Fausto1
99% of the anti-war people you might talk to wouldn't say either of these things. They fully support our troops and simply don't agree with military force being used to resolve the conflict with Hussein. I'm kinda tired of it being spun the other way in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement, quite frankly.Originally posted by: Jugernot
Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
I find it amusing how they call them Pro-U.S. rallies... looks like they are trying to make anti war rallies anti US.
Anybody who calls our troops murders and baby killers, are ani-US IMO.![]()
lol! Yeah, they said the same thing about Vietnam era antiwar protestors.99% of the anti-war people you might talk to wouldn't say either of these things. They fully support our troops and simply don't agree with military force being used to resolve the conflict with Hussein. I'm kinda tired of it being spun the other way in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement, quite frankly.
Which is why I ignore both sides. It's too much work to separate the normal people from the nutballs. I form my own opinion based on the information available and exercise my freedom of speech when it comes time to vote. A bunch of freaks (from either side) marching in the street does nothing to change my views, but they do piss me off when they get in my way.Originally posted by: Fausto1
I never said it didn't go both ways. I merely pointed out that there has been a concerted effort to nullify the anti-war movement by portraying all of its participants as psychos. The other side has done the same thing by yammering about Bush being a "warmonger".
I'm sorry, but I think you're quite wrong. Everyone is very conscious of how wrong the sentiment against US soldiers was after Vietnam. You may recall the first Gulf War.....nary a word condemning our troops. The one common sentiment you'll hear at both pro- and anti- war rallies is "I just want you to know that I support our men in uniform..........."and the rest of the message varies depending on the opinion of the person.Originally posted by: tcsenter
lol! Yeah, they said the same thing about Vietnam era antiwar protestors.99% of the anti-war people you might talk to wouldn't say either of these things. They fully support our troops and simply don't agree with military force being used to resolve the conflict with Hussein. I'm kinda tired of it being spun the other way in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement, quite frankly.
"We really support our men in uniform, but we are opposed.....Hey! Look over there! There's a US serviceman in uniform, let's go spit on that baby killer!"
One need only look at the grotesque serviceman bashing behavior of the antiwar 'icon' of the day, Hanoi Jane.
Sorry, we're all filled up with bullsh-t here, maybe you could sell it elsewhere.
Originally posted by: tcsenter
lol! Yeah, they said the same thing about Vietnam era antiwar protestors.99% of the anti-war people you might talk to wouldn't say either of these things. They fully support our troops and simply don't agree with military force being used to resolve the conflict with Hussein. I'm kinda tired of it being spun the other way in an effort to discredit the anti-war movement, quite frankly.
"We really support our men in uniform, but we are opposed.....Hey! Look over there! There's a US serviceman in uniform, let's go spit on that baby killer!"
One need only look at the grotesque serviceman bashing behavior of the antiwar 'icon' of the day, Hanoi Jane.
Sorry, we're all filled up with bullsh-t here, maybe you could sell it elsewhere.
Striking similarities, seperated only by years.And protesters 35+ years ago have what to do with protesters today?
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Striking similarities, seperated only by years.And protesters 35+ years ago have what to do with protesters today?
A lot of misguided leftist fools, most of whom are the same people who stage protests against the World Trade Organization meetings, college kids looking to protest something just for the sake of protesting something, that impetuous 'uber idealist' age where you're driven by that 'need' to have your own impact and identity which is rooted in a rejection or 'rebellion' of the world your parents created, nudged along by the leftist academics who you think are deities because they're all knowing, some getting college credit for protesting, and many whose objection is purely political and would be singing a different tune if it were a Democrat waging war against Iraq as President Clinton wanted to do but didn't have the fortitude.
Lots and lots of similarities....
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Striking similarities, seperated only by years.And protesters 35+ years ago have what to do with protesters today?
A lot of misguided leftist fools, most of whom are the same people who stage protests against the World Trade Organization meetings, college kids looking to protest something just for the sake of protesting something, that impetuous 'uber idealist' age where you're driven by that 'need' to have your own impact and identity which is rooted in a rejection or 'rebellion' of the world your parents created, nudged along by the leftist academics who you think are deities because they're all knowing, some getting college credit for protesting, and many whose objection is purely political and would be singing a different tune if it were a Democrat waging war against Iraq as President Clinton wanted to do but didn't have the fortitude.
Lots and lots of similarities....
Originally posted by: jahawkin
Originally posted by: tcsenter
Striking similarities, seperated only by years.And protesters 35+ years ago have what to do with protesters today?
A lot of misguided leftist fools, most of whom are the same people who stage protests against the World Trade Organization meetings, college kids looking to protest something just for the sake of protesting something, that impetuous 'uber idealist' age where you're driven by that 'need' to have your own impact and identity which is rooted in a rejection or 'rebellion' of the world your parents created, nudged along by the leftist academics who you think are deities because they're all knowing, some getting college credit for protesting, and many whose objection is purely political and would be singing a different tune if it were a Democrat waging war against Iraq as President Clinton wanted to do but didn't have the fortitude.
Lots and lots of similarities....
You should generalize some more![]()
These people you talk of make up about 1% of the anti-war movement.
...and CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, etc. etc. etc.Right, but they get 90% of the anti-war coverage on FOXnews.....