Pro-Cordoba Rally Speeches Against Bigotry (unless you're Jewish Zionist Israel)

[Infohawk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlgyw01ZQew&feature=player_embedded

Judge for yourself. Get a taste of the white westerners preaching against bigotry and fox news. Sound good? Sure. Then watch what happens when someone starts ranting against Jewish Zionist Israel. The cameraman objects and the crowd turns on him like the intolerant people they're supposed to be criticizing. He gets drowned out by cries of bigotry. Hilarious.

Bonus religion of peace speech too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7hILnHsNKE&feature=watch_response
But maybe this guy isn't Muslim and isn't quoting from any scripture?

 

[sandorski]

1 guy out of 3. Every Protest always has at least one crazy.

 

[Infohawk]

1 guy out of 3. Every Protest always has at least one crazy.

So is everyone in the crowd who supported him crazy too? What's the ratio then?

 

[Sclamoz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlgyw01ZQew&feature=player_embedded

Judge for yourself. Get a taste of the white westerners preaching against bigotry and fox news. Sound good? Sure. Then watch what happens when someone starts ranting against Zionist jews. The cameraman objects and the crowd turns on him like the intolerant people they're supposed to be criticizing. He gets drowned out by cries of bigotry. Hilarious.

Bonus religion of peace speech too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7hILnHsNKE&feature=watch_response
But maybe this guy isn't Muslim and isn't quoting from any scripture?

I just watched the first one but can you point out where the racism is? The speaker calls Israel Zionist...is that what you're calling racist?

Don't you think it's hypocritical to start complaining about "bigotry" after you've spent so much time bitching about people who call people bigots?

The second one is some guy ranting on a street corner. Who gives a fuck?

 

[sandorski]

So is everyone in the crowd who supported him crazy too? What's the ratio then?

I did not see people in the crowd supporting that statement.

 

[Infohawk]

I just watched the first one but can you point out where the racism is? The speaker calls Israel Zionist...is that what you're calling racist?

Don't you think it's hypocritical to start complaining about "bigotry" after you've spent so much time bitching about people who call people bigots?

The second one is some guy ranting on a street corner. Who gives a fuck?

He's hard to understand so maybe he did call Israel zionist.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlgyw01ZQew&feature=player_embedded

Judge for yourself. Get a taste of the white westerners preaching against bigotry and fox news. Sound good? Sure. Then watch what happens when someone starts ranting against Zionist jews. The cameraman objects and the crowd turns on him like the intolerant people they're supposed to be criticizing. He gets drowned out by cries of bigotry. Hilarious.

Bonus religion of peace speech too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7hILnHsNKE&feature=watch_response
But maybe this guy isn't Muslim and isn't quoting from any scripture?

Not surprisingly it's an Indian arguing against Jews, we have plenty of those in the UK too, when they are not trying to kill their relatives for "dishonoring their caste" they are arguing against Jews, confront one of them though and they will run like the wind.

They are kind of like the Taliban, living by archaic laws made up by religious leaders from one thousand years ago.

In the UK they are happy to burn women with acid if they want a divorce and it's even worse in mainland India, it's a shithole of a nation outside of any major city, no better than... say Uganda.

But we trade with them and so they get a free pass, just like the Chinese...

Second video is an example of what happens when you fuck with someones mind enough, PCP or religion basically has the same end result. Crazy people.

 

[Infohawk]

I did not see people in the crowd supporting that statement.

My mistake, the claps must have been for the cameraman who was then accosted by that creepy old geezer.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

He's hard to understand so maybe he did call Israel zionist.

I doubt you will find one Jew who would object to the description of Israel as Zionist, especially the leadership in Israel.

It's not a curse word to any Jew.

 

[Infohawk]

I doubt you will find one Jew who would object to the description of Israel as Zionist, especially the leadership in Israel.

It's not a curse word to any Jew.

I don't disagree but that one woman seemed to see where that speech was going. Actually the cameraman (who was obviously trying to get material to post on youtube) probably would have been smarter to let the guy keep going instead of jumping in right there.

 

[thraashman]

The crowd turned on the camera man not because of his objection to the comment on Zionist Israel (which I don't believe many understood as the man had a heavy accent), but because of whatever incident happened with the old guy. But seeing as we can only see what happened from the camera lense point of view it's hard to know everything.

But yes, the one speaker who was Indian did seem to have some bigotry problems himself which is vastly ironic in the situation.


I didn't watch the second video.

 

[Infohawk]

I watched the old guy portion again and it seems pretty clear the old guy was a dirty old bastard. One woman seems to defend the camera man and say "don't hit him he's a human" but the rest just tell him to get the fuck out because the old guy tried to start a fight.

 

[peonyu]

The scary thing is, the mindset that those people in the video have is shared among the people running the Federal Government.

Illegal immigration ? Racist if you are against it. Mosque on ground zero ? Yup your a racist if you disagree with it even a tiny bit. Anything else to add ? Oh yea If anything offends anyone at all its racist. So my post is racist to I just want to get out there from the getgo since it might offend someone somewhere on Earth.

Oh and Jews really dont have it rough, sure there are anti-Jewish messages when it comes to Israel but thats the only exception. Christians are fair game though, call them whatever you want. And white people are fair game to.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I don't disagree but that one woman seemed to see where that speech was going. Actually the cameraman (who was obviously trying to get material to post on youtube) probably would have been smarter to let the guy keep going instead of jumping in right there.

Probably but in reality, you have presented what you call something against Jews but failed to provide any shred of evidence of it.

In essence, this thread should be locked and you should go look for something that isn't based on what you think would happen if a cameraman whouldn't have interrupted a speech.

I'm all for getting outraged when it's justified but you cant' just make shit up that they "might have said if not interrupted" and state that as truth...

 

[sandorski]

The scary thing is, the mindset that those people in the video have is shared among the people running the Federal Government.

Illegal immigration ? Racist if you are against it. Mosque on ground zero ? Yup your a racist if you disagree with it even a tiny bit. Anything else to add ? Oh yea If anything offends anyone at all its racist. So my post is racist to I just want to get out there from the getgo since it might offend someone somewhere on Earth.

Oh and Jews really dont have it rough, sure there are anti-Jewish messages when it comes to Israel but thats the only exception. Christians are fair game though, call them whatever you want. And white people are fair game to.

Fail

 

[Infohawk]

Probably but in reality, you have presented what you call something against Jews but failed to provide any shred of evidence of it.

In essence, this thread should be locked and you should go look for something that isn't based on what you think would happen if a cameraman whouldn't have interrupted a speech.

I'm all for getting outraged when it's justified but you cant' just make shit up that they "might have said if not interrupted" and state that as truth...

Thanks for your input. Bottom-line is that this guy had an obvious anti-Israel agenda. It is ridiculous that the next guy starts comparing the current situation to pogroms and then the next thing you know the crowd is booting out the cameraman because an old man attacked him. If you don't see the irony I can't help you.

And I don't think anyone is going to have a perfect transcript of what the guy (who you think is "Indian" but probably Pakistani) actually said. It's clear he has the standard pro-Islam anti-Israel mentality.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

The scary thing is, the mindset that those people in the video have is shared among the people running the Federal Government.

Illegal immigration ? Racist if you are against it. Mosque on ground zero ? Yup your a racist if you disagree with it even a tiny bit. Anything else to add ? Oh yea If anything offends anyone at all its racist. So my post is racist to I just want to get out there from the getgo since it might offend someone somewhere on Earth.

Oh and Jews really dont have it rough, sure there are anti-Jewish messages when it comes to Israel but thats the only exception. Christians are fair game though, call them whatever you want. And white people are fair game to.

You're making shit up about other peoples standpoint and throwing around strawmen left and right.

People aren't against laws regarding illegal immigration, they are against laws who make everyone who looks Mexican an immediate suspect that needs to be checked for documentation of his citisenship. THAT is the problem with the laws like Arizonas immigration bill. Of course, you can't understand a long winded sentence such as that one so you'll go with "dem der libruls hate amurika".

Being for or against Zionism is something people IN ISRAEL argue about every day too and it does mean different things to different people even within Israel, to some it means maintaining the Ashkenazi bloodline and they are as nuts as Muslims or Hindus who think their daughters dishonor them by marrying outside of their bloodline. For most people it has more to do with the right to Israel as a nation for Jews, for some, ONLY for Jews and they are not against mass deportation, for some, for Jews and others.


And yeah... Christians are so persecuted in the US, so persecuted that i doubt they could ever have an entire government made up of them, both local and national... those pooor poooooooooooooooooooor Christians in the US...

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Thanks for your input. Bottom-line is that this guy had an obvious anti-Israel agenda. It is ridiculous that the next guy starts comparing the current situation to pogroms and then the next thing you know the crowd is booting out the cameraman because an old man attacked him. If you don't see the irony I can't help you.

And I don't think anyone is going to have a perfect transcript of what the guy (who you think is "Indian" but probably Pakistani) actually said. It's clear he has the standard pro-Islam anti-Israel mentality.

So WHAT if they are against Israeli policy? Even ISRAELS are against Israeli policy from time to time...

He's Indian, i'm willing to bet anything on that, I've dealt with Pakis since before you were born and he's no beloved patriot, he's an Indian Muslim (the dialect is a dead giveaway). And excuse any Pakis i've offended by calling them Pakis...

The irony just got ironic, considering that you started this thread and you're being questioned by a Jew.

 

[Infohawk]

So WHAT if they are against Israeli policy?

Okay I just listened again. I'm pretty sure he's saying it's not the future of this country to "support jewish zionist Israel." But I get it, you're enlightened and don't think that's a big deal. I'm sure if I talked about not supporting arab/muslim pakistan you'd just give me a pat on the back...

 

[thraashman]

The scary thing is, the mindset that those people in the video have is shared among the people running the Federal Government.

Illegal immigration ? Racist if you are against it. Mosque on ground zero ? Yup your a racist if you disagree with it even a tiny bit. Anything else to add ? Oh yea If anything offends anyone at all its racist. So my post is racist to I just want to get out there from the getgo since it might offend someone somewhere on Earth.

Oh and Jews really dont have it rough, sure there are anti-Jewish messages when it comes to Israel but thats the only exception. Christians are fair game though, call them whatever you want. And white people are fair game to.

Well, you see, the "ground zero mosque" haters are actually bigoted. First, this cultural center is replacing one that's only a slight bit further away than an existing one. Second, it's not at Ground Zero. Third, why do they oppose it? They oppose it because it's a Muslim cultural center. The people that oppose it are trying to claim some bullshit about respect. Why, the people who attached the WTC weren't members of this congregation. They weren't related to people of this congregation. They weren't funded by people of this congregation. They happened to be of the same faith as the people of this congregation. You know, like 1.5 billion people in the world are. And it's because the people oppose this center have decided to group all Muslims with the violent extremists that cause the death of almost 3000 people that included other Muslims, that they are bigoted. The refuse to accept there's a difference. Are these same people arguing that no Christians should be allowed to worship near the site of the Oklahoma City bombing, or that Christians cannot go into, open churches near, or work at any abortion clinics in the US? It's bigoted, you know it and I know it. People are just unwilling to admit that they don't want it because they hate Muslims and anything Islam and consider all Muslims the same as the extremist terrorists.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Okay I just listened again. I'm pretty sure he's saying it's not the future of this country to "support jewish zionist Israel." But I get it, you're enlightened and don't think that's a big deal. I'm sure if I talked about not supporting arab/muslim pakistan you'd just give me a pat on the back...

Actually, i don't think it's a big deal, i wouldn't think it would be a big deal if anyone said that they didn't want the US to support Muslim radicalist Saudi Arabia either.

Or would that be a big deal to you?

Pakistan needs to shut the fuck up and stop protecting the Taliban or be eradicated, don't think i have any love for those fuckers who have been playing hide and seek with us here in Afghanistan because i sure as fuck don't.

It's just that i don't make shit up to make myself outraged about something that isn't a big deal, i've got plenty to be outraged about as it is, i don't need to make shit up.

 

[Infohawk]

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What is made up? I started my post with a link and said "Judge for yourself." The video speaks for itself. You have a group of indignant left-wing types railing against intolerance. Then a muslim guy comes up and starts criticizing Israel. You don't think that's a little silly? Generally when people are talking about tolerance they don't single out a religion and country to bitch about. When someone objects, the crowd basically boots him out. Again, not exactly tolerant.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

What is made up? I started my post with a link and said "Judge for yourself." The video speaks for itself. You have a group of indignant left-wing types railing against intolerance. Then a muslim guy comes up and starts criticizing Israel. You don't think that's a little silly? Generally when people are talking about tolerance they don't single out a religion and country to bitch about. When someone objects, the crowd basically boots him out. Again, not exactly tolerant.

I give up, go right ahead, froth at this all you like, you're one of those fucking twats who cannot ever admit they are wrong and at this point you'll say or do anything because you have managed to convince yourself that you are right.

I'm out.

 

[Infohawk]

I give up, go right ahead, froth at this all you like, you're one of those fucking twats who cannot ever admit they are wrong and at this point you'll say or do anything because you have managed to convince yourself that you are right.

I'm out.

I can never admit I'm wrong, which is why I edited my OP to make it clear that there's ambiguity in the guy's speech due to his heavy accent.

 

[jpeyton]

It's being built. Get over it.