Pro-choice, voting for McCain?

whylaff

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A female friend of mine who has always maintained a pro-choice stance in any abortion debate told me the other day at lunch that she was voting for McCain-Palin. I?m not sure if her declaration was intended to solicit a reaction from me or not, but I was mindlessly self absorbed and didn?t give it much of an afterthought at the time.

Then I saw this, which is the complete text of what will become law if Measure 11 passes in South Dakota.
With Measure 11, the State of South Dakota would ban all abortions expect in cases where the mother?s life or health is at a substantial and irreversible risk, and in cases of reported rape and incest.

If Voter?s adopt the law, which is likely to pass, it is guaranteed to be challenged in the court system, and almost guaranteed to go before the Supreme Court.

In my opinion, with the courts current makeup, Justice Kennedy is the likely swing vote and is unlikely to change his position from Planned Parenthood vs Casey. Former Justices Blackburn and White were replaced by Justice Breyer and Justice Ginsburg, still leaving it a potential 5-4 vote. But, when you take into consideration that Justice Stevens is 88 and Ginsburg is 75 and that one of them retiring or otherwise leaving the bench could change the situation, it forces you to think about the potential for the next President to be picking a Supreme Court justice.

I asked her if this would change her vote, her response was an emphatic ?No?, with an indication that she believed Roe vs. Wade was a long shot to ever be overturned, claiming that there is no way the government could ever prevent a woman from having an abortion.

When I read this article today it got me wondering, are their more McCain supporters out there who label themselves as pro-choice and simply dismiss the possibility that a McCain presidency would potentially pursue Justices to presumably overturn Roe vs. Wade if an appointment to the court was needed?

 

fskimospy

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I doubt the USSC will ever overturn Roe v. Wade completely, but with another conservative justice or two I could certainly see them eviscerate it. It's not as bad as you think though, because if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned the issue would simply return to the states, many of which would keep it legal.

If you do in fact live in South Dakota then you might have a problem, yes. Then again, South Dakota is so reliably Republican anyway that I don't really see another few McCain votes mattering anyway.

The biggest problem with the overturn of Roe v. Wade is that it will screw poor people. Anyone with any money will have more than enough means to fly to a state that hasn't banned it to get their abortion, but the people who are too poor won't. As a silver lining though, it will take a major issue away from the Republicans, with any luck furthering their disintigration.
 

whylaff

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
I doubt the USSC will ever overturn Roe v. Wade completely, but with another conservative justice or two I could certainly see them eviscerate it. It's not as bad as you think though, because if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned the issue would simply return to the states, many of which would keep it legal.
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I agree with you, but I just wanted to throw this in there - ND, SD, IL KY, LA and MS all have trigger laws in effect that makes abortion illegal in the state if Roe vs. Wade is overturned and the decision is confirmed by the State AG. There are about the same number of states that have laws that re-affirm the current status of abortions being legal if overturned, but I don?t recall which states they were.

 

whylaff

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
Maybe there are more important issues than abortion?!

I?m sure there are and I am by no means saying that anyone other than yourself should make a determination as to what the most important issues to you are or that someone can never change their mind. In this situation, and I don?t think I highlighted it enough, my friend has always been extremely vocal about being pro-choice.