brycejones
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make sure you send a Mothers Day card to your mom this year for being Pro-Life.
Cool you could even put that on a bumper sticker
make sure you send a Mothers Day card to your mom this year for being Pro-Life.
But they are cool with building prisons and shit down the road. Remember all life is precious till it pops out of the womb then its f' that let them eat cake from there on out.
I don't agree. I think it's vastly more responsible to not have a child that you are not prepared to have than it is to pop out a baby you don't want and can't afford just because other people think you need to.Generally people don't disapprove of abortion when there's a threat to the mother's life, but killing a child for his or her own well-being makes precisely zero sense.
But they are cool with building prisons and shit down the road. Remember all life is precious till it pops out of the womb then its f' that let them eat cake from there on out.
I don't agree. I think it's vastly more responsible to not have a child that you are not prepared to have than it is to pop out a baby you don't want and can't afford just because other people think you need to.
Complete nonsense. The Catholic Church, the most intractable opponent of abortion, is as heavily involved in providing healthcare, charities, and homeless shelters as any other major player.
If they truly believe the child is sacred and innocent then they should not punish the infant by denying the infant healthcare and foodstamps to spite the irresponsible mother.Actually they tend to argue the other way, the mother MUST have the baby and the mother MUST get no public funds to take care of the unwanted baby once it is born... because that is what Jesus would do.... .... bunch of fucking of sociopaths
If they truly believe the child is sacred and innocent then they should not punish the infant by denying the infant healthcare and foodstamps to spite the irresponsible mother.
I don't agree. I think it's vastly more responsible to not have a child that you are not prepared to have than it is to pop out a baby you don't want and can't afford just because other people think you need to.
That is the Catholic Church, certainly not the universal view of folks here or in the conservative movement.
Not my point. You cited that pregnancy in older women is risky to both mother and baby, which is true. But if we're arguing for killing the child, I don't understand any concern for his or her safety.
Not my point. You cited that pregnancy in older women is risky to both mother and baby, which is true. But if we're arguing for killing the child, I don't understand any concern for his or her safety.
In good faith, head's up. Especially since IIRC you tend to lean left.
The correct terms are pro and anti abortion. One side generally thinks abortion should remain legal, and other generally illegal.
And how do you know that?
I think what he's going for is older parents are at high risk of having genetic problems with potential offspring. If they are looking to abort for the good of the child it's the kind of gentic defects that are incompatible with life.
The woman, her doctor and family might decide that bringing an accidental child into the world who has no chance at anything but a short painful life at great financial and emotional cost to the family is not the appropriate decision.
Nope, try again. No one likes abortion. But in the real world, adult choices aren't black and white. People have to make tragic decisions all the time. You belittling this is quite childish and naive.
I was speaking to your "makes zero sense" statement. Frankly, I don't give a damn why someone is getting an abortion, as that's entirely between the doctor and patient and none of my business. If you accompany someone getting abortion, then you'll fully grasp why this is not something that people would just do on a whim, and why nobody would use it as a replacement for contraception--and honestly, even if they do, it's still not my concern. But I can't imagine that being done.Not my point. You cited that pregnancy in older women is risky to both mother and baby, which is true. But if we're arguing for killing the child, I don't understand any concern for his or her safety.
Both. Abortion should be legal but discouraged. Government should ensure proper neonatal care and encourage healthy motherhood while simultaneously recognizing that abortion is a basic right.
What bugs me: the claims that women who go for non-vital abortions are using it casually, like they're just stopping by the pharmacy for the morning after pill. I can't claim to speak on behalf of all women who've had abortions, but in many of the cases I've heard about it's a serious (occasionally traumatic) ordeal, and carefully considered.
I'm reminded a bit of those people who assume that all poor people are lazy, and that they too could be happy middle-class workers if they'd just pull themselves up by their bootstraps. In both cases, it's really just an attempt to avoid guilt for willingly hurting innocent people. They're all evil, so I don't have to feel bad when I knowingly make them suffer..