PrimeGrid Winter Solstice Challenge December 18-21, with GPUs!

Ken g6

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Welcome to the PrimeGrid Winter Solstice Challenge. :) We're rounding out another year with another GPU sieve challenge. This challenge also happens to use a sieve client I wrote, so I have a few more suggestions than usual. :sneaky: Also note the unusual times below!

What you need to participate:
  • One or more fast x86 processors. (Even slow ones will do!)
  • Windows, Linux, or MacOS 10.4+.
  • BOINC, attached to PrimeGrid (http://www.primegrid.com/).
  • Your PrimeGrid Preferences with only "Proth Prime Search (Sieve)" selected in the Projects section. (It's the one marked as this month's Challenge project.)

What would help a whole lot:
  • An nVIDIA GPU, of the 8000 series or later (so it's CUDA capable). A mid-range GTX 460 does about 10 times as much work as a mid-range quad-core CPU! :eek:
  • An AMD GPU, of the 4000 series or later (so it's OpenCL capable), with the 10.10 or later Catalyst drivers, of the APP variety. A mid-range Radeon 5770 does 2-3 times as much work as a mid-range quad-core CPU.
  • "Use ATI GPU" and "Use NVIDIA GPU" set to "yes" in your PrimeGrid preferences.
  • Windows users should make sure they have msvcrt90.dll. You can get it by installing the .NET 3.5 runtime. (Not sure if this is still necessary, but it's listed just in case.)
  • Users with multiple GPUs should add a cc_config.xml file.

What would help a little, but isn't absolutely necessary:
  • A 64-bit OS on a 64-bit processor will run CPU work 30% faster than a 32-bit OS. It matters very little for GPU work. If you can't get a GPU working on a 64-bit OS, but it does work on a 32-bit OS, go back to the 32-bit OS.
  • Overclocking a little. This project produces less heat than the LLR challenge from last month, and it's more tolerant of errors - except on GPUs, so watch out!
  • An app_info.xml file may be useful, especially with a non-standard addition:
    • <cmdline>-m64</cmdline> may improve performance a few percent on Fermi-based nVIDIA cards. Other values may improve performance a little on other cards -- try them and see!
    • <count>0.5</count> would let two computations run at once on Fermi-based nVIDIA cards. This generally doesn't seem helpful, but you're welcome to try it anyway.

What won't help (but won't hurt either):
  • A large amount of RAM.
  • Any older video cards or Intel video cards - though you might want to use them for your display while newer cards crunch.

This challenge starts on December 18, at 11:11 UTC and runs until the Winter Solstice three days later. (Note the unusual start and end times! Some people think the end time is also the end times, but that's another story. :whiste:) Only WUs downloaded after the start of the challenge and completed before the end of the challenge (and before the end times) will be counted. Should you not be able to be in front of one or more computers at the start time, either set their queue level to zero (0) days or try one of the scheduled start methods from the strategy thread (for Linux or Windows). Network connection time options may also be useful - though they depend on your computer's clock being correct, so set the start time a few minutes late.

Welcome and good luck to all! :thumbsup:
 

petrusbroder

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I am probably in too. As you all may know, the Folding@Home Holiday Season Race takes a break during this PG-race. At least I hope ... ;)
 

Ken g6

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I think it's actually 7:11AM EST (UTC-4), 4:11AM Pacific.

Suffice it to say I won't be awake at the time, so I'm trusting my script to start it for me.
 

sangyup81

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I think it's actually 7:11AM EST (UTC-4), 4:11AM Pacific.

Suffice it to say I won't be awake at the time, so I'm trusting my script to start it for me.

Should be UTC-5 since we are not in Daylight Savings Time right now
 

biodoc

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Prime grid home page says:

PrimeGrid's 2012 Challenge Series
Winter Solstice Challenge
18 Dec 11:11 UTC – 21 Dec 11:11 UTC


11 hours and 12 minutes from now. :eek:
 

Ken g6

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Well, my CPU cores started fine, but the GPU didn't auto-start for three reasons:

- Somehow my attempt to auto-kill FAH appears to have actually resumed it. :confused: At least the time wasn't wasted.
- I forgot to restart BOINC on my Linux machine since the last reboot, so it failed to detect a GPU.
- I forgot to turn on nVidia tasks at PrimeGrid. :$

Going now, but I'm still on my slow GPU. I can't afford to fiddle with my computer right now, as it's my work computer too. I'm waiting for Haswell to get a new computer.
 

geecee

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I took 8 cpu cores from the F@H race and put them into PG. I actually was trying to use my GPUs for this, but for some reason, they didn't seem to want to download WUs. I only had 10 mins before I had to leave for work this morning, so I didn't have time to look into it. Will take a look again tonight.
 

petrusbroder

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I'll not be home before tomorrow night ... so I'll sit this race out.
I'll stick to doing F@H - folding and all the stats. The comps are doing this all un-supevised ... ;)
 

lane42

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wow, some big temp. jumps on the gpu's. With Seti and Einstein
i run 59-60 c. Primegrid 69-70 C.
 

Ken g6

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About-12-hour stats:
Rank___Credits____Username
22_____771959_____Lane42
84_____391036_____zzuupp
105____320245_____biodoc
254____124727_____sangyup81
348____67420______SlangNRox
380____53936______Rudy Toody
464____30339______GLeeM
565____13484______Ken_g6
680____3371_______filibusterman

Rank__Credits____Team
13____2191150____Storm
14____2154069____L'Alliance Francophone
15____2140585____BOINCstats
16____1776517____TeAm AnandTech
17____1688871____US Navy
18____1618080____The Knights Who Say Ni!
19____1527063____Team Norway

Lane42, after the race, you should try Folding@Home. I'm afraid if I get another 7xxx series GPU WU for the 6.xx client it'll melt my GT430!
 

zzuupp

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Thanks for the stats!

I looked back: We were 23rd in the December challenge last year.

So, we're off to good start.
 

GLeeM

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How long will it take to finish CPU WUs on i7 920 @ 3.9Ghz? It says 185 hours starting out, but I think I remember this is not accurate?

Edit: nine hours later ... 36 percent done ... guess I'll be OK :)
 
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blckgrffn

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Running with a couple CPUs and the venerable GTS 250 which gets ~60 ppd on this set of tasks by itself.

I tried using the 4770, but it was loading up and then dying (driver unresponsive).

Anyone want to help me disable GPU/Primegrid on this one box so I can get my other AMD gpus into the race? Thanks in advance :)

I have 6770, 6570 and Trinity GPU that could be racing!
 

sangyup81

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Running with a couple CPUs and the venerable GTS 250 which gets ~60 ppd on this set of tasks by itself.

I tried using the 4770, but it was loading up and then dying (driver unresponsive).

Anyone want to help me disable GPU/Primegrid on this one box so I can get my other AMD gpus into the race? Thanks in advance :)

I have 6770, 6570 and Trinity GPU that could be racing!

couldn't you just do a use no gpus option in cc config?
 

blckgrffn

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couldn't you just do a use no gpus option in cc config?

Good question. I had "use GPU when computer is in use cleared" and it still ran them anyway, I'll look for another checkbox - I must have missed that one.

EDIT - Ah, I don't see it but you are going to tell me that it is a file, not a configuration option, aren't you?
 
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somethingsketchy

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Anyone getting credit for their CPU work? According to my calculations, I've returned 6 WUs of the PPS (Sieve 1.39) variety so far, but I'm not listed as having returned credit. I'm due to return another 12+ in the next 8-10 hours, so hopefully I'm listed in the overall competition in 1000th place or better :D
 

Kiska

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Oh well I started a bit late but GPU should be able to complete soon. And CPUs might finish on end time