Primaries Thread 5-17-06:Pennsylvania Primary sweep out 13 incumbent Republicans

[dmcowen674]

This is awesome news and bodes well for November.

Can Pennsylvania turn blue???

This starting to look good for the November 2008 election too.

I won't count chickedns until they hatch though.

Most likely the religious are not in full force during Primaries.

5-17-2006 Pennsylvania. Voters Oust at Least 14 Lawmakers

PHILADELPHIA - More than a dozen legislative incumbents, including the state Senate's top two Republicans, lost in Tuesday's primary election.

Pennsylvania voters also set up one of the hottest races in the U.S. Senate, choosing conservative Democrat Bob Casey to challenge conservative Republican Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) this fall.

Sixty-one incumbents faced primary challenges Tuesday, the most since 1980. At least 14 were defeated, and six other races were too close to call early Wednesday.

Swept from office were the Senate's No. 1 Republican ? President Pro Tempore Robert C. Jubelirer ? and Majority Leader David J. Brightbill. It's the first time in more than 40 years that any Pennsylvania legislative leader was voted out of office.

"Tonight voters from across the state overwhelmingly showed President Bush, Rick Santorum and the whole 'wrong direction' gang in Washington that the values that unite us as Democrats are stronger than anything that might divide us," Casey said.

 

[Genx87]

lmao omfg this is hilarious. Seriously does anybody else find this thread funny?

What is a primary brainiac? So much for the lefts self proclaimed intelligence lead lmao.

 

[AntaresVI]

Dave, I'm from the philly burbs, and this is more about what these incumbents did in office than a republican/democrat thing. See this article. Plus, it's a primary - these were republicans doing the voting on other republicans. Do you understand how this cannot possibly have anything to do with a red/blue shift?

 

[Lemon law]

You may be right Antare VI,

Even if its not due to a red/blue shift--I have no doubt it will be spun every way possible by various commentators--but it does certainly show something equally desirable among Republicans and perhaps voters in general---the great unwashed masses are no longer as apathetic and they are ready, willing, and able to throw the damn rascals out.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: AntaresVI
Dave, I'm from the philly burbs, and this is more about what these incumbents did in office than a republican/democrat thing. See this article. Plus, it's a primary - these were republicans doing the voting on other republicans. Do you understand how this cannot possibly have anything to do with a red/blue shift?

Queen of Denial is in Egypt.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is awesome news and bodes well for November.

Can Pennsylvania turn blue???

This starting to look good for the November 2008 election too.

I won't count chickedns until they hatch though.

Most likely the religious are not in full force during Primaries.

5-17-2006 Pennsylvania. Voters Oust at Least 14 Lawmakers

PHILADELPHIA - More than a dozen legislative incumbents, including the state Senate's top two Republicans, lost in Tuesday's primary election.

Pennsylvania voters also set up one of the hottest races in the U.S. Senate, choosing conservative Democrat Bob Casey to challenge conservative Republican Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) this fall.

Sixty-one incumbents faced primary challenges Tuesday, the most since 1980. At least 14 were defeated, and six other races were too close to call early Wednesday.

Swept from office were the Senate's No. 1 Republican ? President Pro Tempore Robert C. Jubelirer ? and Majority Leader David J. Brightbill. It's the first time in more than 40 years that any Pennsylvania legislative leader was voted out of office.

"Tonight voters from across the state overwhelmingly showed President Bush, Rick Santorum and the whole 'wrong direction' gang in Washington that the values that unite us as Democrats are stronger than anything that might divide us," Casey said.

Do you even read these things before you post your wildly inaccurate thread titles?

14 of 61 incumbants (no specific party mentioned) lost their primary races. Only two of them were specifically reported to be Republicans. Six other races are still up in the air. Again... no party afilliation is mentioned.

Nowhere in there does it say that ALL 14 primary losers were Republicans.

What's more, it's a primary election. So it bears no indication on the overall R/D leanings of the state. That will be determined in November.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is awesome news and bodes well for November.

Can Pennsylvania turn blue???

This starting to look good for the November 2008 election too.

I won't count chickedns until they hatch though.

Most likely the religious are not in full force during Primaries.

5-17-2006 Pennsylvania. Voters Oust at Least 14 Lawmakers

PHILADELPHIA - More than a dozen legislative incumbents, including the state Senate's top two Republicans, lost in Tuesday's primary election.

Pennsylvania voters also set up one of the hottest races in the U.S. Senate, choosing conservative Democrat Bob Casey to challenge conservative Republican Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) this fall.

Sixty-one incumbents faced primary challenges Tuesday, the most since 1980. At least 14 were defeated, and six other races were too close to call early Wednesday.

Swept from office were the Senate's No. 1 Republican ? President Pro Tempore Robert C. Jubelirer ? and Majority Leader David J. Brightbill. It's the first time in more than 40 years that any Pennsylvania legislative leader was voted out of office.

"Tonight voters from across the state overwhelmingly showed President Bush, Rick Santorum and the whole 'wrong direction' gang in Washington that the values that unite us as Democrats are stronger than anything that might divide us," Casey said.

Do you even read these things before you post your wildly inaccurate thread titles?

14 of 61 incumbants (no specific party mentioned) lost their primary races. Only two of them were specifically reported to be Republicans. Six other races are still up in the air. Again... no party afilliation is mentioned.

Nowhere in there does it say that ALL 14 primary losers were Republicans.

What's more, it's a primary election. So it bears no indication on the overall R/D leanings of the state. That will be determined in November.

This is Tom Ridge's Red State, not kalifornia.

 

[chowderhead]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is awesome news and bodes well for November.

Can Pennsylvania turn blue???

This starting to look good for the November 2008 election too.

I won't count chickedns until they hatch though.

Most likely the religious are not in full force during Primaries.

5-17-2006 Pennsylvania. Voters Oust at Least 14 Lawmakers

PHILADELPHIA - More than a dozen legislative incumbents, including the state Senate's top two Republicans, lost in Tuesday's primary election.

Pennsylvania voters also set up one of the hottest races in the U.S. Senate, choosing conservative Democrat Bob Casey to challenge conservative Republican Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) this fall.

Sixty-one incumbents faced primary challenges Tuesday, the most since 1980. At least 14 were defeated, and six other races were too close to call early Wednesday.

Swept from office were the Senate's No. 1 Republican ? President Pro Tempore Robert C. Jubelirer ? and Majority Leader David J. Brightbill. It's the first time in more than 40 years that any Pennsylvania legislative leader was voted out of office.

"Tonight voters from across the state overwhelmingly showed President Bush, Rick Santorum and the whole 'wrong direction' gang in Washington that the values that unite us as Democrats are stronger than anything that might divide us," Casey said.

Do you even read these things before you post your wildly inaccurate thread titles?

14 of 61 incumbants (no specific party mentioned) lost their primary races. Only two of them were specifically reported to be Republicans. Six other races are still up in the air. Again... no party afilliation is mentioned.

Nowhere in there does it say that ALL 14 primary losers were Republicans.

What's more, it's a primary election. So it bears no indication on the overall R/D leanings of the state. That will be determined in November.

list of PA House of Rep. that lost

So far 15 of the PA House of Reps. have lost their primary challenge.
4 o f the 15 were Democrats and the rest were Republicans. Most were in the south-central and southwest regions of the state. Some lost to unknowns and newbies like that 21 college grad knocking off a rep. or that law student that defeated LaGrotta.
Anyway, it doesn't bode well for incumbents in PA.

Edit: 11+2 (in State Senate) = 13 but even then it was a primary so Republicans still can win in the general. I think the more accurate title would be payraise voting incumbents swept out of office.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: chowderhead

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is awesome news and bodes well for November.

Can Pennsylvania turn blue???

This starting to look good for the November 2008 election too.

I won't count chickedns until they hatch though.

Most likely the religious are not in full force during Primaries.

5-17-2006 Pennsylvania. Voters Oust at Least 14 Lawmakers

PHILADELPHIA - More than a dozen legislative incumbents, including the state Senate's top two Republicans, lost in Tuesday's primary election.

Pennsylvania voters also set up one of the hottest races in the U.S. Senate, choosing conservative Democrat Bob Casey to challenge conservative Republican Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) this fall.

Sixty-one incumbents faced primary challenges Tuesday, the most since 1980. At least 14 were defeated, and six other races were too close to call early Wednesday.

Swept from office were the Senate's No. 1 Republican ? President Pro Tempore Robert C. Jubelirer ? and Majority Leader David J. Brightbill. It's the first time in more than 40 years that any Pennsylvania legislative leader was voted out of office.

"Tonight voters from across the state overwhelmingly showed President Bush, Rick Santorum and the whole 'wrong direction' gang in Washington that the values that unite us as Democrats are stronger than anything that might divide us," Casey said.

Do you even read these things before you post your wildly inaccurate thread titles?

14 of 61 incumbants (no specific party mentioned) lost their primary races. Only two of them were specifically reported to be Republicans. Six other races are still up in the air. Again... no party afilliation is mentioned.

Nowhere in there does it say that ALL 14 primary losers were Republicans.

What's more, it's a primary election. So it bears no indication on the overall R/D leanings of the state. That will be determined in November.

list of PA House of Rep. that lost

So far 15 of the PA House of Reps. have lost their primary challenge.
4 o f the 15 were Democrats and the rest were Republicans. Most were in the south-central and southwest regions of the state. Some lost to unknowns and newbies like that 21 college grad knocking off a rep. or that law student that defeated LaGrotta.
Anyway, it doesn't bode well for incumbents in PA.

Thanks updated Title to reflect the 11 that are history.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: chowderhead

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is awesome news and bodes well for November.

Can Pennsylvania turn blue???

This starting to look good for the November 2008 election too.

I won't count chickedns until they hatch though.

Most likely the religious are not in full force during Primaries.

5-17-2006 Pennsylvania. Voters Oust at Least 14 Lawmakers

PHILADELPHIA - More than a dozen legislative incumbents, including the state Senate's top two Republicans, lost in Tuesday's primary election.

Pennsylvania voters also set up one of the hottest races in the U.S. Senate, choosing conservative Democrat Bob Casey to challenge conservative Republican Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) this fall.

Sixty-one incumbents faced primary challenges Tuesday, the most since 1980. At least 14 were defeated, and six other races were too close to call early Wednesday.

Swept from office were the Senate's No. 1 Republican ? President Pro Tempore Robert C. Jubelirer ? and Majority Leader David J. Brightbill. It's the first time in more than 40 years that any Pennsylvania legislative leader was voted out of office.

"Tonight voters from across the state overwhelmingly showed President Bush, Rick Santorum and the whole 'wrong direction' gang in Washington that the values that unite us as Democrats are stronger than anything that might divide us," Casey said.

Do you even read these things before you post your wildly inaccurate thread titles?

14 of 61 incumbants (no specific party mentioned) lost their primary races. Only two of them were specifically reported to be Republicans. Six other races are still up in the air. Again... no party afilliation is mentioned.

Nowhere in there does it say that ALL 14 primary losers were Republicans.

What's more, it's a primary election. So it bears no indication on the overall R/D leanings of the state. That will be determined in November.

list of PA House of Rep. that lost

So far 15 of the PA House of Reps. have lost their primary challenge.
4 o f the 15 were Democrats and the rest were Republicans. Most were in the south-central and southwest regions of the state. Some lost to unknowns and newbies like that 21 college grad knocking off a rep. or that law student that defeated LaGrotta.
Anyway, it doesn't bode well for incumbents in PA.

Thanks updated Title to reflect the 11 that are history.

 

[tw1164]

LOL, This had nothing to do w/ national politics.

Last summer the state reps/senate passed a pay raise at 2:00am (some of them got up to a 54%) pay raise. Well, this didn't go over so well, central PA became a political hell for the legislators and the voters were able to get the legislators to vote to repel this pay raise. The state has been promising to pass property tax reform, which they haven't. There was a LARGE grassroots effect to get ALL of the incumbents who voted for the pay raise out of office. We (the citizens of PA) are tired of this sh*t, and we made our opinions clear.


BTW Dave, its a primary so all the incumbent Republicans that were voted out were replaced w/ other Republicans. That's how PRIMARIES work.



Here's a good article
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*edit for spelling

 

[KK]

Dave won't understand what you are saying tw1164. Don't even bother, its not worth your time.

 

[AntaresVI]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
You may be right Antare VI,

Even if its not due to a red/blue shift--I have no doubt it will be spun every way possible by various commentators--but it does certainly show something equally desirable among Republicans and perhaps voters in general---the great unwashed masses are no longer as apathetic and they are ready, willing, and able to throw the damn rascals out.

Oh, I agree with you that it's generally a good thing to get fresh representatives in there to make change, I just wanted to make sure that it was understood that Dave's spin was completely unsupported by the facts.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: chowderhead

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is awesome news and bodes well for November.

Can Pennsylvania turn blue???

This starting to look good for the November 2008 election too.

I won't count chickedns until they hatch though.

Most likely the religious are not in full force during Primaries.

5-17-2006 Pennsylvania. Voters Oust at Least 14 Lawmakers

PHILADELPHIA - More than a dozen legislative incumbents, including the state Senate's top two Republicans, lost in Tuesday's primary election.

Pennsylvania voters also set up one of the hottest races in the U.S. Senate, choosing conservative Democrat Bob Casey to challenge conservative Republican Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) this fall.

Sixty-one incumbents faced primary challenges Tuesday, the most since 1980. At least 14 were defeated, and six other races were too close to call early Wednesday.

Swept from office were the Senate's No. 1 Republican ? President Pro Tempore Robert C. Jubelirer ? and Majority Leader David J. Brightbill. It's the first time in more than 40 years that any Pennsylvania legislative leader was voted out of office.

"Tonight voters from across the state overwhelmingly showed President Bush, Rick Santorum and the whole 'wrong direction' gang in Washington that the values that unite us as Democrats are stronger than anything that might divide us," Casey said.

Do you even read these things before you post your wildly inaccurate thread titles?

14 of 61 incumbants (no specific party mentioned) lost their primary races. Only two of them were specifically reported to be Republicans. Six other races are still up in the air. Again... no party afilliation is mentioned.

Nowhere in there does it say that ALL 14 primary losers were Republicans.

What's more, it's a primary election. So it bears no indication on the overall R/D leanings of the state. That will be determined in November.

list of PA House of Rep. that lost

So far 15 of the PA House of Reps. have lost their primary challenge.
4 o f the 15 were Democrats and the rest were Republicans. Most were in the south-central and southwest regions of the state. Some lost to unknowns and newbies like that 21 college grad knocking off a rep. or that law student that defeated LaGrotta.
Anyway, it doesn't bode well for incumbents in PA.

Edit: 11+2 (in State Senate) = 13 but even then it was a primary so Republicans still can win in the general. I think the more accurate title would be payraise voting incumbents swept out of office.

Thank you for posting accurate information.

 

[Lemon law]

A similar thing happened in Indiana a few weeks ago--over that same legislator over generous retirement plan thing---the Republirat State Senate leader got bounced.

Won't over speculate here as to reasons----------but de voters in Indiana are angry too.

The upcoming general election should be interesting------whose next to get the boot?

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
A similar thing happened in Indiana a few weeks ago--over that same legislator over generous retirement plan thing---the Republirat State Senate leader got bounced.

Won't over speculate here as to reasons----------but de voters in Indiana are angry too.

The upcoming general election should be interesting------whose next to get the boot?

I think it's a widespread thing.

It's likely that our sitting governor (Alaska) won't make it through the primary. There are an awful lot of Republican challengers lining up to knock this guy off.

Looks like a "throw the bums out" attitude is spreading all over. That's a good thing.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: chowderhead

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
This is awesome news and bodes well for November.

Can Pennsylvania turn blue???

This starting to look good for the November 2008 election too.

I won't count chickedns until they hatch though.

Most likely the religious are not in full force during Primaries.

5-17-2006 Pennsylvania. Voters Oust at Least 14 Lawmakers

PHILADELPHIA - More than a dozen legislative incumbents, including the state Senate's top two Republicans, lost in Tuesday's primary election.

Pennsylvania voters also set up one of the hottest races in the U.S. Senate, choosing conservative Democrat Bob Casey to challenge conservative Republican Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record) this fall.

Sixty-one incumbents faced primary challenges Tuesday, the most since 1980. At least 14 were defeated, and six other races were too close to call early Wednesday.

Swept from office were the Senate's No. 1 Republican ? President Pro Tempore Robert C. Jubelirer ? and Majority Leader David J. Brightbill. It's the first time in more than 40 years that any Pennsylvania legislative leader was voted out of office.

"Tonight voters from across the state overwhelmingly showed President Bush, Rick Santorum and the whole 'wrong direction' gang in Washington that the values that unite us as Democrats are stronger than anything that might divide us," Casey said.

Do you even read these things before you post your wildly inaccurate thread titles?

14 of 61 incumbants (no specific party mentioned) lost their primary races. Only two of them were specifically reported to be Republicans. Six other races are still up in the air. Again... no party afilliation is mentioned.

Nowhere in there does it say that ALL 14 primary losers were Republicans.

What's more, it's a primary election. So it bears no indication on the overall R/D leanings of the state. That will be determined in November.

list of PA House of Rep. that lost

So far 15 of the PA House of Reps. have lost their primary challenge.
4 o f the 15 were Democrats and the rest were Republicans. Most were in the south-central and southwest regions of the state. Some lost to unknowns and newbies like that 21 college grad knocking off a rep. or that law student that defeated LaGrotta.
Anyway, it doesn't bode well for incumbents in PA.

Edit: 11+2 (in State Senate) = 13 but even then it was a primary so Republicans still can win in the general. I think the more accurate title would be payraise voting incumbents swept out of office.

Thank you for posting accurate information.

13, Cool, changed again.