chip supplies for all radeon cards are meant to be under supplied, just didnt expect it to do quite so well or worse than expected yeilds, seems to be a bit of both. the result seems to be the 9800's starting even more expensive than the 9700's, which still have hardly come down in price unless you dig deep. The 9800's are expected to simply replace the 9700, rather than the norm of 9700 dropping to a lower market segment first. The same is happening with 9500pro and 9600pro's (the entire point of the 9600pro is its cheaper to make than the low margin 9500pro), although its more expected in the middle performance cards especially when the 9500's are so costly to produce.
nvidia did similar in a more obvious way, replacing GF3 with GF3ti500 & ti200, and GF4ti4400 with ti4600 & ti4200, iirc. The prices of the "older" cards did not increase however and steadily dropped in price, unlike the 9700pro which has kept its price very well. By example, Crucial was selling 9700pro for about £280 for almost a year, and then they simply replaced it (then at £270 iirc) with their 9800pro at £286. Crucial is a good example because they sell their own cards direct and forgo the ridiculous markups (some places are trying to flog the same crucial card for over £350). maybe pricing structure is different in N.A. (bloody lot cheaper regardless), but that seems to be whats happening over this side of the pond.
people seriosuly need to stop being so fvcking anal about the occasional accidental repost or something they personally see as trivial. thread title is pretty clear on the contents so you werent tricked into opening the thread and wasting a minuite of your precious time, who's the nazi?