price for video cards on the rise thanks for nothing amd

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
Dood, you can't blame AMD/ATI for that. The X1950 Pro is considered a very good video card for a very good price. Of course this is due to competition. The lack of a serious competitor to the 8800 Ultra (which I believe is not even released yet) is to blame for higher end cards being more expensive. But, that's partly because Nvidia is taking advantage of their position right now.

In less than 10 days, the situation for DX10 video cards is going to change. Only a small percentage of gamers buy the higher end cards. And a lot of people are waiting for R600 to come out before buying a card anyway.

I know I'm waiting for the R630.

The mid-range cards are the only thing that matter to me.

Dont be a fanboy. This is AMD's fault 100%.

Look at the 8800GTX. Nvidia could have been charging $800 for almost seventh months, but they haven't. They've kept the prices down until now. Now they are just doing exactly what every other company in a capitalist economy would do.

If AMD would just release the damn GPU that they say could "ship tomorrow" then we wouldnt even be in this situation in the first place.

 

[nullpointerus]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
8800 Ultra in stock at Mwave

w00t!

My first high end card in ages!!

:laugh:


not

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: Matt2
Dont be a fanboy. This is AMD's fault 100%.

Look at the 8800GTX. Nvidia could have been charging $800 for almost seventh months, but they haven't. They've kept the prices down until now. Now they are just doing exactly what every other company in a capitalist economy would do.

If AMD would just release the damn GPU that they say could "ship tomorrow" then we wouldnt even be in this situation in the first place.

That's one of the stupidest things I've read in a while.

Whenever NVIDIA isn't being immediately challenged at the high end they get lazy and greedy (not saying that other companies don't do the same thing...) They could have pressured AMD/ATI on price over the last six months, but instead chose to keep the 8800GTX very expensive. And now they've launched an even MORE expensive slightly OCed version to squeeze out some more money before the R600 launch and steal some of AMD's thunder. It's AMD's fault that NVIDIA is taking advantage of AMD's screwups/misfortune to screw the consumer?

It's frustrating that NVidia and ATi refuse to build mainstream cards TODAY that can even play TODAY'S games at a decent fps with shadow mapping enabled. Utter rubbish, really, that you have to spend $400+ on a GPU just you want to actually be able to use the shadowing options available in the game and yet still play at more than a slideshow rate.

Developers are kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place.

If they make the games so you can run with every option turned on at 1920x1200 on today's midrange cards, they won't be taking advantage of the high-end cards (especially when a pair of high-ends cards can be used in SLI/Crossfire; the difference between, say, a 7900GT and an 8800GTX SLI is enormous). Then people complain that the games don't push their expensive hardware.

If they make games that can push the highest-end hardware but that have to be scaled down to run well on cheaper hardware, other people complain that the game is too demanding and requires an expensive video card to run well and/or look great. Making broadly scalable engines that don't have to cut out major features like dynamic shadows on slower hardware is really really hard.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: yacoub

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

Originally posted by: yacoub

It's frustrating that NVidia and ATi refuse to build mainstream cards TODAY that can even play TODAY'S games at a decent fps with shadow mapping enabled.

I can have shadows on in every game I have with my 7600gt FEAR, Oblivion, CoH, BF2142, etc etc Probably only STALKER would cause me to turn the shadows off, but that came out one year after the 7600gt. When it was released one year ago it COULD play "todays" games with shadows enabled

Try supreme commander

I play SupCom with High settings just Shadows are not the special shadows it offers. Again because high quality Shadows always whore GPU performance.

Ive only played the demo, and i love it, im seriously considering picking it up.

Do you love the full game? Are you an RTS fan?

 

[yacoub]

yeah, SupCom is pretty awesome. if you have the time to learn it and play it, get it.

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: coolpurplefan
Dood, you can't blame AMD/ATI for that. The X1950 Pro is considered a very good video card for a very good price. Of course this is due to competition. The lack of a serious competitor to the 8800 Ultra (which I believe is not even released yet) is to blame for higher end cards being more expensive. But, that's partly because Nvidia is taking advantage of their position right now.

In less than 10 days, the situation for DX10 video cards is going to change. Only a small percentage of gamers buy the higher end cards. And a lot of people are waiting for R600 to come out before buying a card anyway.

I know I'm waiting for the R630.

The mid-range cards are the only thing that matter to me.

Dont be a fanboy. This is AMD's fault 100%.

Look at the 8800GTX. Nvidia could have been charging $800 for almost seventh months, but they haven't. They've kept the prices down until now.

ahahahahahahahahaha! sorry but that's just.... wow. :laugh:

 

[StrangerGuy]

I don't think how Nvidia is going to survive much longer when the PC market now is more fragmented than before. Too many people sick of upgrading cycles, driver & game bugs, stale games and other misc sh!t. So that leaves their RSX on the PS3, which Sony isn't doing very well.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: yacoub

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: schneiderguy

Originally posted by: yacoub

It's frustrating that NVidia and ATi refuse to build mainstream cards TODAY that can even play TODAY'S games at a decent fps with shadow mapping enabled.

I can have shadows on in every game I have with my 7600gt FEAR, Oblivion, CoH, BF2142, etc etc Probably only STALKER would cause me to turn the shadows off, but that came out one year after the 7600gt. When it was released one year ago it COULD play "todays" games with shadows enabled

Try supreme commander

I play SupCom with High settings just Shadows are not the special shadows it offers. Again because high quality Shadows always whore GPU performance.

Ive only played the demo, and i love it, im seriously considering picking it up.

Do you love the full game? Are you an RTS fan?

The game is amazing.

I'd be more worried about the CPU, than the GPU, though. It's a CPU hog.