Previous Bush PDBs: "Bin Laden planning multiple operations," "Bin Laden network's plans advancing" & "OBL threat real"

DealMonkey

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Washington Post: Panel Says Bush Saw Repeated Warnings

By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 14, 2004; Page A01

By the time a CIA briefer gave President Bush the Aug. 6, 2001, President's Daily Brief headlined "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US," the president had seen a stream of alarming reports on al Qaeda's intentions. So had Vice President Cheney and Bush's top national security team, according to newly declassified information released yesterday by the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

In April and May 2001, for example, the intelligence community headlined some of those reports, "Bin Laden planning multiple operations," "Bin Laden network's plans advancing" and "Bin Laden threats are real."

The intelligence included reports of a hostage plot against Americans. It noted that operatives might choose to hijack an aircraft or storm a U.S. embassy. Without knowing when, where or how the terrorists would strike, the CIA "consistently described the upcoming attacks as occurring on a catastrophic level, indicating that they would cause the world to be in turmoil," according to one of two staff reports released by the panel yesterday.

"Reports similar to these were made available to President Bush in the morning meetings with [Director of Central Intelligence George J.] Tenet," the commission staff said.

The information offers the most detailed account to date of the warnings the intelligence community gave top Bush administration officials, and provides the context in which a CIA briefer put together a memo on Osama bin Laden's activities in the Aug. 6 PDB for Bush.

The government moved on several fronts to counter the threats. The CIA launched "disruption operations" in 20 countries. Tenet met or phoned 20 foreign intelligence officials. Units of the 5th Fleet were redeployed. Embassies went on alert. Cheney called Crown Prince Adbullah of Saudi Arabia to ask for help. National security adviser Condoleezza Rice asked the CIA to brief Attorney General John D. Ashcroft about an "imminent" terrorist attack whose location was unknown.

"The system was blinking red," Tenet told the commission in private testimony, the panel's report noted.

In this context, Bush "had occasionally asked his briefers whether any of the threats pointed to the United States," the report said. Or as one U.S. senior official more intimately involved in the summer reporting paraphrased the president's question to the CIA: "This guy going to strike here?"

A partial answer was contained in the very first sentence of the Aug. 6 President's Daily Brief: "Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladin since 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the US."

The document ended with two paragraphs of circumstantial evidence that al Qaeda operatives might already be in the United States preparing "for hijackings or other types of attacks," and that the FBI and the CIA were investigating a call to the U.S. Embassy in the United Arab Emirates in May "saying that a group of Bin Ladin supporters was in the US planning attacks with explosives."

The commission also released new details showing how the CIA and FBI failures to track the movements of two hijackers, Khalid al Mihdhar and Nawaf al Hazmi, and share information foiled what now appears to have been the best chance to disrupt the terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon.

The CIA knew Mihdhar had attended a meeting in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, in January 2000 where, officials later learned, he had helped plan the October 2000 bombing of the USS Cole off the coast of Aden, Yemen. After the meeting, Mihdhar and others went to Bangkok, but the CIA station in Malaysia did not inform the CIA station in Bangkok in a timely manner.

Only two months later, in March, did the CIA learn that Mihdhar had left Bangkok with a visa to the United States.

In January 2001, two surveillance photographs from the Kuala Lumpur meeting were shown to an informant who was helping both the CIA and the FBI. He helped them understand that Mihdhar was at the meeting with a man identified as "Khallad" -- who by then was known to have planned the Cole bombing. But "we found no effort by the CIA to renew the long-abandoned search for Mihdhar or his traveling companions," the staff report noted.

Also, contrary to the previous testimony of Tenet, the CIA did not tell the FBI about this discovery until late August 2001, according to the report.

Mihdhar had left the United States in June 2000 but had plans to return.

"It is possible that if, in January 2001, agencies had resumed their search for him" or had placed him on a terrorist watch list, "they might have found him" before he applied for a new visa in June 2001, the report said. "Or they might have been alerted to him when he returned to the United States the following month. We cannot know."

In mid-May 2001, during the height of threat reporting, a CIA official went back through the Mihdhar files and discovered that he had a U.S. visa and that Hazmi had come to Los Angeles on January 15, 2000. The official concluded "something bad was definitely up," the staff report said, but he did not alert his FBI counterparts. "He was focused on Malaysia."

But the report said he did ask an FBI analyst detailed to the CIA to review the Kuala Lumpur material again -- "in her free time." She began on July 24, 2001, and learned from the Immigration and Naturalization Service that the two might be in the country. She drafted a cable asking that Mihdhar and Hazmi be put on a terrorist watch list. The FBI analyst, meanwhile, "took responsibility for the search effort inside the United States."

The analyst thought Mihdhar was in New York and informed the FBI's New York field office. But she labeled her first e-mail to the office "routine," which gave the FBI 30 days to respond.

"No one apparently felt they needed to inform higher levels of management in either the FBI or CIA about the case," the commission staff said.

The search was assigned to an FBI agent who had never before handled a counterterrorism lead.

"Many witnesses have suggested that even if Mihdhar had been found, there was nothing the agents could have done except follow him onto the planes," the report said. "We believe this is incorrect.

"Both Hazmi and Mihdhar could have been held for immigration violations, or as material witnesses in the Cole bombing case," the commission report said. Interrogations "also may have yielded evidence of connections to other participants in the 9/11 plot. In any case, the opportunity did not arise."
 

Ldir

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Meanwhile back on the ranch, Dubya was asleep at the wheel dreaming of Star Wars and Iraqi oil. Asscroft made terrorism a low priority. He was focused on the naked statues threat. Cheney was busy with his charity work, giving energy and environment hand-outs to greedy ..um.. Needy cronies.

This information might have come forward if they shook the trees.
 
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Originally posted by: Ldir
Meanwhile back on the ranch, Dubya was asleep at the wheel dreaming of Star Wars and Iraqi oil. Asscroft made terrorism a low priority. He was focused on the naked statues threat. Cheney was busy with his charity work, giving energy and environment hand-outs to greedy ..um.. Needy cronies.

This information might have come forward if they shook the trees.

Meanwhile, back in the Oval Office, Slick Willy is jamming cigars up interns' crotches and telling lies under oath (just prior, he sent a few million dollars of Tomahawks into Afghanistan to deprive the Afghans of aspirin just as he's about to be charged with high crimes and misdemeanors) all the while our embassies are being attacked by Osama Bin Laden, our U.S.S. Cole is being attacked by Osama Bin Laden, and the buildings which house our troops in Saudi Arabia are being attacked...by Osama Bin Laden...what did the August PDB state again? Bin Laden wants to attack America. Say it isn't so. Clearly, the cost of inaction was greater than the cost of action.


[edit] listed the U.S.S. Cole as an aircraft carrier...thanks, sir.
 

chess9

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Someone smack me, please. :) I partially agree with Galt. Clinton and Freeh and Tenet could have done a whole lot more. They didn't and they share the blame with Congress and Bush.

-Robert
 

GrGr

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Yes, keep kicking that Great Strawman Clinton. That will make you feel better. Why don't you indicte him with the infanticide of 500,000 thousand Iraqi infants while you are at it? Thank God Clinton isn't in office anymore. :p
 

heartsurgeon

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repeated warnings about events that occcurred while Bush was a Governor, and Clinton was President!
HAHAHA
wake up.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Originally posted by: Ldir
Meanwhile back on the ranch, Dubya was asleep at the wheel dreaming of Star Wars and Iraqi oil. Asscroft made terrorism a low priority. He was focused on the naked statues threat. Cheney was busy with his charity work, giving energy and environment hand-outs to greedy ..um.. Needy cronies.

This information might have come forward if they shook the trees.

Meanwhile, back in the Oval Office, Slick Willy is jamming cigars up interns' crotches and telling lies under oath (just prior, he sent a few million dollars of Tomahawks into Afghanistan to deprive the Afghans of aspirin just as he's about to be charged with high crimes and misdemeanors) all the while our embassies are being attacked by Osama Bin Laden, our U.S.S. Cole is being attacked by Osama Bin Laden, and the buildings which house our troops in Saudi Arabia are being attacked...by Osama Bin Laden...what did the August PDB state again? Bin Laden wants to attack America. Say it isn't so. Clearly, the cost of inaction was greater than the cost of action.


[edit] listed the U.S.S. Cole as an aircraft carrier...thanks, sir.

Umm....the "aspirin" factory was in the Sudan.

But, it's nice to see you agree that Bush's inaction has cost us dearly.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
repeated warnings about events that occcurred while Bush was a Governor, and Clinton was President!
HAHAHA
wake up.

That's strange. The article posted by the OP mentions dates all in 2001 where information was fed to Bush and Cheney. I thought Bush was in the White House in 2001. Oh wait, he *was* in Texas...on vacation.
 

KAMAZON

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
repeated warnings about events that occcurred while Bush was a Governor, and Clinton was President!
HAHAHA
wake up.

That's strange. The article posted by the OP mentions dates all in 2001 where information was fed to Bush and Cheney. I thought Bush was in the White House in 2001. Oh wait, he *was* in Texas...on vacation.

Bush was the only president in our history that spent more time on vacation, then in the white house when 9-11 happened! As far as blaming this and everything on Clinton, the Dick Cheney would not have tried to launch 9-11 on Clinton because he wasn't in control of him like he is over our puppet president!
 

alchemize

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OK here's a question to all of the libbies.

We are currently seeing escalated warnings about attacks in the US RIGHT FRICKEN NOW.

These are people already in the US. What do you suggest we do that is not already being done? Cause I know once the next attack hits, the blame bush is going to start flying.

*waits for crickets or diverting comments on Afghanistan/Iraq.
 
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Originally posted by: alchemize
OK here's a question to all of the libbies.

We are currently seeing escalated warnings about attacks in the US RIGHT FRICKEN NOW.

These are people already in the US. What do you suggest we do that is not already being done? Cause I know once the next attack hits, the blame bush is going to start flying.

*waits for crickets or diverting comments on Afghanistan/Iraq.

but...but...but...the Patriot Act is unconstitutional....we want to just sit on our hands and let another attack take place, so we can then blame Bush...anyone but Bush...anyone but Bush...no war (or food) for oil!
 

chess9

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Alchemize:

Do you really think anyone here has any knowledge about the nature and extent of any threats to the U.S. If so, we need a new government.

-Robert
 

Moonbeam

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The chimp is sitting on his hands while North Korea, Syria, and Iran work overtime to find a way to destroy us. Where the hell are the preemptive strikes. What's the matter with that gutless dolt? Any moron can pick low hanging fruit. Bush is all talk and no action. He is a complete disaster.
 

leeboy

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
repeated warnings about events that occcurred while Bush was a Governor, and Clinton was President!
HAHAHA
wake up.

rolleye.gif
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: chess9
Alchemize:

Do you really think anyone here has any knowledge about the nature and extent of any threats to the U.S. If so, we need a new government.

-Robert
That's exactly the OP is saying about August 2001.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: alchemize
OK here's a question to all of the libbies.

We are currently seeing escalated warnings about attacks in the US RIGHT FRICKEN NOW.

These are people already in the US. What do you suggest we do that is not already being done? Cause I know once the next attack hits, the blame bush is going to start flying.

*waits for crickets or diverting comments on Afghanistan/Iraq.

Hell, ask Bush. He's the one who said we can "win the war on terreh." Are we winning yet?

Look, if there are credible threats and increased chatter, they can do all kinds of things. They could crank up the security threat level. They could ensure there's a sky marshall on every flight. They could post RNG (w/ ammo this time) at key/strategic locations (oh wait, they were all deployed to Iraq -- oh teh nooooes), we could dispatch bomb-sniffing dogs to every train station and bus station. And that's just for starters.

But hey, I'm not a CTU agent, I just watch 'em on 24. Where's Jack Bauer when you need him? :)
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
OK here's a question to all of the libbies.

We are currently seeing escalated warnings about attacks in the US RIGHT FRICKEN NOW.

These are people already in the US. What do you suggest we do that is not already being done? Cause I know once the next attack hits, the blame bush is going to start flying.

*waits for crickets or diverting comments on Afghanistan/Iraq.

Hell, ask Bush. He's the one who said we can "win the war on terreh." Are we winning yet?

Look, if there are credible threats and increased chatter, they can do all kinds of things. They could crank up the security threat level. They could ensure there's a sky marshall on every flight. They could post RNG (w/ ammo this time) at key/strategic locations (oh wait, they were all deployed to Iraq -- oh teh nooooes), we could dispatch bomb-sniffing dogs to every train station and bus station. And that's just for starters.

But hey, I'm not a CTU agent, I just watch 'em on 24. Where's Jack Bauer when you need him? :)
All ineffective if you don't know where the attack is going to come, if it is unprecedented. For example, crashing planes into buildings. What if the next strategy is suicide bombers at wal-mart? Oh you wouldn't care. OK, how about suicide bombers at Whole Foods? Then what?

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: alchemize
All ineffective if you don't know where the attack is going to come, if it is unprecedented. For example, crashing planes into buildings. What if the next strategy is suicide bombers at wal-mart? Oh you wouldn't care. OK, how about suicide bombers at Whole Foods? Then what?
Wal-Mart? Yeah, collateral damage. Who cares? There's still a dozen in a 20-mile radius. :)

Yes, crashing planes into buildings was unprcedented, however the administration had ample warning that aQ was looking at hijacking. They'd done it before. Response to hijacking threats would be handled virtually the same as the crashing them into buildings threat.

In any event, I could come up with more suggestions. Better intel in the hands of all agencies. Top-down message of open communication in all agencies. Bring us your cases that sound like aQ. What are you agents working on? Photos and descriptions of known terrorists in the hands of beat cops, border agents, and pizza delivery guys. Pull every spare agent in every agency off whatever they're working on and put them on aQ.

I would have never diverted resources to Iraq in the first place. We're getting nowhere in the war on aQ in Iraq. Waste of time. Put every soldier on the hunt for aQ and aQ leadership everywhere in the world where they'll let us in. Focus all intel orgs and surveillence activities on aQ.

Do I need to go on?
 

MonstaThrilla

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Deal,

You unfortunately have no flare for creating sensationalist thread headings. Its a necessity in this environment. I was about to post my own thread, because I almost didn't see this one. Here's a good thread title to change to:

Previous Bush PDBs: "Bin Laden planning multiple operations," "Bin Laden network's plans advancing" and "Bin Laden threats are real."

:beer:
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The chimp is sitting on his hands while North Korea, Syria, and Iran work overtime to find a way to destroy us. Where the hell are the preemptive strikes. What's the matter with that gutless dolt? Any moron can pick low hanging fruit. Bush is all talk and no action. He is a complete disaster.


mpd???

:confused:
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Do I need to go on?


Not really, if you are not willing to look at the big picture, your opinion
doesn't really matter anyway. But it is entertaining..

:)
 

fjord

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Originally posted by: alchemize
OK here's a question to all of the libbies.

We are currently seeing escalated warnings about attacks in the US RIGHT FRICKEN NOW.

These are people already in the US. What do you suggest we do that is not already being done? Cause I know once the next attack hits, the blame bush is going to start flying.

*waits for crickets or diverting comments on Afghanistan/Iraq.

Ok. I'm of the liberal persuasion--so I'll take a swing at this one.

First, I want to see all the intelligence--right now.
Next, set-up a databank.
Next, I want to gather a crack group of spatial multivariate analysis experts.
Next crunch all the data through a variety of algorithms.
This will give us exactly what we need--predictive capabilities.

I should add that I would positively not choose to attack preemptively and without provocation some country that is totally unrelated to the facts at hand. Only a mad-man (or a mad group) would select such a path.

This would allow the US to focus on the issue at hand (logistically, personnel-wise and economically), and most importantly it would avert the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Do I need to go on?


Not really, if you are not willing to look at the big picture, your opinion
doesn't really matter anyway. But it is entertaining..

:)

Oh boo hoo, my opinion doesn't matter. :( I feel so marginalized Ozone.