Press Release -? Fox News Excluded Ron Paul from Debate

[HeXploiT]

December 28, 2007 10:39 pm EST

ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA ? According to the New Hampshire State Republican Party and an Associated Press report, Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul will be excluded from an upcoming forum of Republican candidates to be broadcast by Fox News on January 6, 2008.

?Given Ron Paul?s support in New Hampshire and his recent historic fundraising success, it is outrageous that Dr. Paul would be excluded,? said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. ?Dr. Paul has consistently polled higher in New Hampshire than some of the other candidates who have been invited.?

Snyder continued, ?Paul supporters should know that we are continuing to make inquiries with Fox News as to why they have apparently excluded Dr. Paul from this event.?

Just as we are seeing double digits in the polls and have raised probably more money then any other republican candidate Fox attempts to pull this crap. They must be getting desperate.

You know what to do.

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[Wreckem]

Double digit polls?

All the recent NH polls Ive seen have Paul at 4-9%, most of them in the 4% area with Gallup and the Boston Glob at 9 and 8 respectively. With McCain at 28% and Romney at 30%.

Please, SHOW me a recent NH poll that has Paul in double digits.

 

[HeXploiT]

Edit: sorry messed up my link.

Paul has polled in double digits in many states as of late.

 

[UberNeuman]

I'm not a Ron Paul supporter - but he does have a following and he should be at the debate - has Fox issued a statement as to why Paul isn't included?

 

[brxndxn]

I don't see how they could even seriously plan on excluding him..

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Double digit polls?

All the recent NH polls Ive seen have Paul at 4-9%. With McCain at 28% and Romney at 30%.

Paul is seeing 10-11% in many December polls.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/14/s.carolina.poll/
can't believe I'm even using this as a statistic when these so obviously underestimate Pauls support. Only 50% of Pauls support comes from traditional republicans which means at least 50% of them aren't even being called.

And what does South Carolina have to do with New Hampshire?

As for the 11% on the CNN poll, there are dozens of other polls that have Paul at far less.

CBS poll had him at 3% and Rasmussen has him at 5%. Mason Dixon 4%.

But again, what does him having a single poll in SC at 11% have anything to do with a New Hampshire Forum, where he is polling in single digits?

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: brxndxn
I don't see how they could even seriously plan on excluding him..

Its not Fox that is excluding him, its the New Hampshire Republican Party.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Double digit polls?

All the recent NH polls Ive seen have Paul at 4-9%. With McCain at 28% and Romney at 30%.

Paul is seeing 10-11% in many December polls.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/14/s.carolina.poll/
can't believe I'm even using this as a statistic when these so obviously underestimate Pauls support. Only 50% of Pauls support comes from traditional republicans which means at least 50% of them aren't even being called.

And what does South Carolina have to do with New Hampshire?

As for the 11% on the CNN poll, there are dozens of other polls that have Paul at far less.

CBS poll had him at 3% and Rasmussen has him at 5%. Mason Dixon 4%.

But again, what does him having a single poll in SC at 11% have anything to do with a New Hampshire Forum, where he is polling in single digits?

I edited my post(as you did). read it again.


Even the Paul campaign is not sure exactly what's going on. The media outlets now know that whenever they bring up Ron Paul they get much attention. Many have concluded that Fox is trolling for attention.
I don't think there is any room to waste time however. Better safe then sorry.

 

[Farang]

I'm not a supporter of Ron Paul but this is outrageous if true.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Wreckem
Double digit polls?

All the recent NH polls Ive seen have Paul at 4-9%. With McCain at 28% and Romney at 30%.

Paul is seeing 10-11% in many December polls.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/14/s.carolina.poll/
can't believe I'm even using this as a statistic when these so obviously underestimate Pauls support. Only 50% of Pauls support comes from traditional republicans which means at least 50% of them aren't even being called.

And what does South Carolina have to do with New Hampshire?

As for the 11% on the CNN poll, there are dozens of other polls that have Paul at far less.

CBS poll had him at 3% and Rasmussen has him at 5%. Mason Dixon 4%.

But again, what does him having a single poll in SC at 11% have anything to do with a New Hampshire Forum, where he is polling in single digits?

I edited my post(as you did). read it again.


Even the Paul campaign is not sure exactly what's going on. The media outlets now know that whenever they bring up Ron Paul they get much attention. Many have concluded that Fox is trolling for attention.
I don't think there is any room to waste time however. Better safe then sorry.

No what it appear to me is, the New Hampshire Republican Party, who is hosting/sponsoring the forum have excluded Paul, not Fox News.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

This is horrible, i will call 112 as fast as i can to provide an ambulance for your mind.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: Wreckem


No what it appear to me is, the New Hampshire Republican Party, who is hosting/sponsoring the forum have excluded Paul, not Fox News.

This could very well be. The result would be the same however. At any rate they should know by now that they won't get away with this and ultimately it will only play into pauls favor by garnering him additional press en mass.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
This is horrible, i will call 112 as fast as i can to provide an ambulance for your mind.

You mean 911? Thanks for the bump.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Wreckem


No what it appear to me is, the New Hampshire Republican Party, who is hosting/sponsoring the forum have excluded Paul, not Fox News.

This could very well be. The result would be the same however. At any rate they should know by now that they won't get away with this and ultimately it will only play into pauls favor by garnering him additional press en mass.

He'll need a lot more than to over come a 26 point defecit.

He does say hes a Libertarian Member of Congress on his Congressional Website. Maybe the NH GOP takes offense to that who knows.

 

[bamacre]

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi

Have they moved to step 3 already?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Wreckem


No what it appear to me is, the New Hampshire Republican Party, who is hosting/sponsoring the forum have excluded Paul, not Fox News.

This could very well be. The result would be the same however. At any rate they should know by now that they won't get away with this and ultimately it will only play into pauls favor by garnering him additional press en mass.

He'll need a lot more than to over come a 26 point defecit.

He does say hes a Libertarian Member of Congress on his Congressional Website. Maybe the NH GOP takes offense to that who knows.

He has been elected to Congress under the Republican party during his career, and he is running as a Republican.

Nevertheless, is it your opinion that what they are doing is fair and or right?

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: bamacre
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi

Have they moved to step 3 already?

Im sorry to tell you this.

Ron Paul isnt going to win the Republican Nomination for President.

The majority of Republicans are against him. Independents play a very minor role in party nominations.

Ron Paul is Howard Dean 2.0 except, hes never been a front runner and hes not gonna be the RNC Chairman when all is said and done.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: Wreckem


No what it appear to me is, the New Hampshire Republican Party, who is hosting/sponsoring the forum have excluded Paul, not Fox News.

This could very well be. The result would be the same however. At any rate they should know by now that they won't get away with this and ultimately it will only play into pauls favor by garnering him additional press en mass.

He'll need a lot more than to over come a 26 point defecit.

He does say hes a Libertarian Member of Congress on his Congressional Website. Maybe the NH GOP takes offense to that who knows.

He has been elected to Congress under the Republican party during his career, and he is running as a Republican.

Nevertheless, is it your opinion that what they are doing is fair and or right?

Hes also ran as President under the Libertarian ticket, and professes to be a Libertarian Member of Congress on his Congressional webpage. I can see state parties taking offense to that. State parties have a mind of their own. But who knows its all speculation. But I was just trying to point out its the NH GOP that has excluded them, not Fox News.

Hes not going to win the Republican nomination. God I wish I could go into hibernation until the evening of Feb 5. Feb 6 it'll be all over for you delusional freaks.

As for being fair or right?

If it was Fox excluding him it would be wrong. If its the NH GOP excluding him because he is no where near their platform? They have the right.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
This is horrible, i will call 112 as fast as i can to provide an ambulance for your mind.

You mean 911? Thanks for the bump.

No i mean 112 (I'm English) and you are very welcome.

I just hope you don't go hang yourself when reality hits and Hillary is president.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: bamacre
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi

Have they moved to step 3 already?

Im sorry to tell you this.

Ron Paul isnt going to win the Republican Nomination for President.

The majority of Republicans are against him. Independents play a very minor role in party nominations.

Ron Paul is Howard Dean 2.0 except, hes never been a front runner and hes not gonna be the RNC Chairman when all is said and done.

You are not telling me anything I don't already know. Well, I don't think the Dean analogy is relevant. Nevertheless, I will continue to support him, rather than break principle and support someone I don't like because I think they have a better shot at winning. We need change, I understand it doesn't occur overnight, and the need for change doesn't end with Ron Paul.

 

[HeXploiT]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
This is horrible, i will call 112 as fast as i can to provide an ambulance for your mind.

You mean 911? Thanks for the bump.

No i mean 112 (I'm English) and you are very welcome.

I just hope you don't go hang yourself when reality hits and Hillary is president.

Oh you're English. Two peoples separated by a common language then.
Now ah heck off.:beer: We defeated you now we will have victory at home once again.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

It wouldn't even matter IF he won the Republican nomination, he still sure as fuck would lose 40/60 just because of the current adm.

See, whoever wins what (and Hillary will be the nominee) the dems will take this one, and since Hillary will win, she will be president.

Truthfully, i challenge you arseholes to a debate on topics on Hillary where you are against her, these have to be named topics that she has claimed she will push for.

If i as a spectator can even pull a little bit of this off (and vic, wait for your turn) then your politics suck arse.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: bamacre
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi

Have they moved to step 3 already?

Im sorry to tell you this.

Ron Paul isnt going to win the Republican Nomination for President.

The majority of Republicans are against him. Independents play a very minor role in party nominations.

Ron Paul is Howard Dean 2.0 except, hes never been a front runner and hes not gonna be the RNC Chairman when all is said and done.

So what is your point? I'm voting for him because he represents my views much more than any of the other Republican candidates. Why would I not vote for him just because he probably won't win? I don't understand the fascination with voting for the winning candidate.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Wreckem

Originally posted by: brxndxn
I don't see how they could even seriously plan on excluding him..

Its not Fox that is excluding him, its the New Hampshire Republican Party.

That's how I read it. Fox broadcasts the debates, they don't choose the candidates. The local party guys or the host organization invite the candidates.

I'm not a big RP fan but it doesn't make any sense to exclude him.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Perry404

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
This is horrible, i will call 112 as fast as i can to provide an ambulance for your mind.

You mean 911? Thanks for the bump.

No i mean 112 (I'm English) and you are very welcome.

I just hope you don't go hang yourself when reality hits and Hillary is president.

Oh you're English. Two peoples separated by a common language then.
Now ah heck off.:beer: We defeated you now we will have victory at home once again.

One day even you will master the English language, today is not that day.

And you did not defeat us, the French saved your arses since most of you fled like pussies, it it was not for the brave French your nation would not even exist.

And please do not rewrite history, you did bow before our Queen before the French got itsidy mad.

We could have had the most of it but we pretty much divided you into morons and intellectuals, morons in the south and intellectuals in the north.

I am just kidding of course, mixing reality with stories, but in essence, the morons in the south actually were morons who liked race biology and whatever made them appear smarter than they are.

Serious nutjobs... Canada on the other hand is a country i love.