President Obama to deliver statement on the Affordable Care Act at 11:35am ET

NFS4

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http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/...-speak-on-health-care-amid-rumors-of-fix?lite

President Barack Obama is expected to announce a patch to his signature health care law to address mounting concerns over canceled insurance plans.

Obama will deliver remarks regarding the Affordable Care Act at 11:35 a.m., the White House announced. And top Democrat in the House suggested the president's remarks would include a proposal to assuage consumers whose health care plans have been canceled as a result of the Affordable Care Act.

"The president will offer a proposal today is my understanding," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said this morning at the Washington Ideas Forum at the Newseum.

Obama's announcement comes amid mounting Democratic nervousness over canceled insurance policies, a phenomenon which conflicts with the president's often-stated vow during his sales pitch for the health care law that if consumers liked their plan, they could keep it.

A rash of canceled policies -- primarily for consumers in the individual insurance market, whose plans are now considered sub-optimal under the new health care law's coverage standards -- have prompted growing public outrage toward Obama, for having apparently broken his promise.

A handful of Democrats up for re-election in competitive states have signed onto various legislative proposals that would re-instate many of the canceled insurance policies. These proposals have prompted alarm, though, from many progressive supporters of "Obamacare," since a central tenet of the law involves improving minimal standards for insurance plans.

The growing discontent among Democrats remarks a stunning reversal from just a month ago, when Obama's allies in Congress were able to consistently rebuff any Republican-led attempt to delay or undo the health care law as a condition of funding the government.

And Republicans seized upon the technical malfunctions of Healthcare.gov during its first month and a half, along with examples of canceled policies to press their advantage on "Obamacare." On Friday, the House will vote on a proposal that would re-instate some of the health insurance plans threatened with cancellation, a plan which Republican leaders have sold to their rank-and-file members as a first step on the road to repealing the Affordable Care Act.
 

Jaskalas

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President Obama to announce closing the barn doors today, after all the animals have escaped.
 

waggy

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this should be entertaining.

I don't see him putting it off a year. that would show the GOP was right.

so i figure he will get on and just say "stay the course"
 

EagleKeeper

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What about those of us 5M that had policies shut down.

Those going to be reactivated at previous rates?
 

waggy

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What about those of us 5M that had policies shut down.

Those going to be reactivated at previous rates?

lol they can't.

So IF they put the mandate off a year. what then? they can't force the insurance company's to re-insure those kicked off at the same rate.

the insurance company's will offer them one for %30 more (less then aca) for the year..


though i spoke to fast.more i think about it putting off the mandate is the ONLY play obama has
 

MiniDoom

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What about those of us 5M that had policies shut down.

Those going to be reactivated at previous rates?

"hey but they're getting something better, they just don't know it!"

I actually heard this being thrown around on msnbc this morning.
 

rudeguy

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he's going to promise something
but be vague about it
he will make sure not to promise anything specific
but he will promise that it will make people's lives better

It will be a lie




The end
 

spidey07

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he's going to promise something
but be vague about it
he will make sure not to promise anything specific
but he will promise that it will make people's lives better

It will be a lie




The end

If you like your health insurance, you can keep it! That I promise.

My guess is they'll grant some extensions until after the 2014 elections.
 

waggy

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If you like your health insurance, you can keep it! That I promise.

My guess is they'll grant some extensions until after the 2014 elections.

yeah only thing he can do. boy the 2014 elections should be entertaining too...
 

spidey07

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Everything predicted about obamacare is coming to fruition. Let him eat a big bag of dicks.
 

Svnla

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He probably will say Obamacare is great for us, but us stupid peasants don't realize it yet. Period. :D
 

rudeguy

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He probably will say Obamacare is great for us, but us stupid peasants don't realize it yet. Period. :D

I don't know....

the last couple times I heard him talk, he sounded like even he was sick of his shit.
 

spidey07

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AP - "Obama will allow company's to sell canceled insurance"

Anybody else see something VERY wrong about that statement? Hey fuckstick! You don't get to 'allow" anything!
 

Doppel

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Bonus points for any prole-targeted anecdotes. You know there has to be at least one about a mom "strugglin'" to get by and now she can at least know she has healthcare for her kids and no longer has to worry. Maybe he will use single dad instead to appear more progressive.
 

Jaskalas

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AP - "Obama will allow company's to sell canceled insurance"

Anybody else see something VERY wrong about that statement? Hey fuckstick! You don't get to 'allow" anything!

They are currently not allowed to, by law.

However, why would they? ACA has risen their costs - the companies cannot keep the old plans even if they wanted to.
 

thraashman

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then please tell me how Obama is going to change the law? Because he cannot single handedly change any law.

He can change the directive to how the HHS interprets the law. The reason plans were cancelled was because of the insurance companies. Plans were grandfathered in, that's true. However, insurance companies post passing of the law changed those plans, and when a plan is grandfathered in, it can't change, or it loses it's grandfathered status. And once it loses that status it now has to comply with the ACA, which those didn't. So Obama should be able to change the directive to the HHS that loosen the grandfathering restrictions.
 

waggy

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/14/breaking-obama-to-make-statement-on-health-care/?hpt=hp_t1

Obama will deliver remarks at 11:35 a.m. ET in the White House Press Briefing Room, the White House announced Thursday morning.

The plan will in part call for insurance policies to be renewed for one year for those who already have insurance policies in the individual market, the source said.



interesting if true. but to be honest about the only thing he can do. so these plans are grandfathered in for a year.

now..

what happens next year?
 

spidey07

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Doesn't matter what happens next year. It will be after the election.

Best thing that could happen is repeat of what happened this year. 4 weeks before election insurance companies send notices that they were forced to cancel people's insurance because of obamacare.