Preserving white wine from a can?

[pete6032]

I was at the grocery store today and bought some 12 oz aluminum cans of white wine. If I don't drink all 12 oz what is the best way to preserve the remaining wine?

 

[DigDog]

.. what kind of wine comes in a can ?

 

[lxskllr]

Your stomach. If you insist on being difficult, put it in a bottle.

 

[IronWing]

The wine was already spoiled when it left the winery; that's the point of wine.

 

[Thump553]

Is that really white wine or instead some kind of fizzy wine cooler? I also have never seen wine in a can but have seen plenty of canned wine coolers. If it's a cooler, I'd say finish it or dump the remainder.

 

[JulesMaximus]

.. what kind of wine comes in a can ?

Shit wine.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I had no idea canned wine was a thing lol.

At 12oz I would just plan to drink it in one sitting, ex: don't have one if you need to drive anywhere any time soon. That's basically what, 2 wine glasses worth?

 

[MtnMan]

Leave it in the can... and in the store.

 

[Captante]

Leave it in the can... and in the store.

/thread

 

[pete6032]

I had no idea canned wine was a thing lol.

At 12oz I would just plan to drink it in one sitting, ex: don't have one if you need to drive anywhere any time soon. That's basically what, 2 wine glasses worth?

Half a bottle.

Whole Foods has an entire aisle of canned wines.

 

[zinfamous]

.. what kind of wine comes in a can ?

the same type that can come in a box? (yes, we do that too! ...well, I don't know why I'm telling you this. even Europeans will sell and buy boxed wine).

But it's all pretty much table wine. Some of them are...well, actually not all that bad. Technically speaking, boxes (bags, really) and cans are much better for preserving wine than bottles are. At least, traditional cork bottles.

we all love corked bottles. We think it's special...but it's absolutely the worst way to preserve wine in any dependable way. I blame Big Cork (Really, the entire country of Portugal for propagating this myth. Where would they be without having cornered the world market on cork trees, after all?). Anyway, it's funny and a bit interesting that the absolute worst way to preserve the thing, is the one way that humans collectively accept as the only right way to do it. Everything else is gauche.

I digress.

I pick up canned and sometimes the individual 16 oz boxed wines for cooking purposes. Some are fairly decent, and good enough for cooking. While you don't want to cook with shit wine, it's far, far better to cook with middling wine (in a box or can), than it is to cook with day or week-old (or corked, for that matter) fancy wine.

 

[dullard]

Most white wine lasts fairly well in the fridge. I haven't tried storing it in a can, but you could try putting a plastic film over the top and use a rubber band to keep it there. I would personally store it in a separate sealable container though. You can drink it without much flavor degradation for about a week. After that, use it for cooking wine.

Red wine: drink immediately or toss. Edit: aeration of higher end red wines is acceptable. Just drink shortly after proper aeration has been performed. Most reds will degrade quite quickly afterwards.

 

[Captante]

Beer actually does a LOT better in a can then in a glass bottle too because light can damage the flavor. Cans just get a bad rap.

 

[sandorski]

Most white wine lasts fairly well in the fridge. I haven't tried storing it in a can, but you could try putting a plastic film over the top and use a rubber band to keep it there. I would personally store it in a separate sealable container though. You can drink it without much flavor degradation for about a week. After that, use it for cooking wine.

Red wine: drink immediately or toss.

I disagree on how long it will last. Few wines will last more than 2 days without very noticable degradation if stored this way. The oxygen needs to be removed to be drinkable in a week and some wines may still not last that long. Carbonated/fizzy wine tends to fair better though as the CO2/gas displaces oxygen somewhat.

 

[dullard]

I disagree on how long it will last. Few wines will last more than 2 days without very noticable degradation if stored this way. The oxygen needs to be removed to be drinkable in a week and some wines may still not last that long. Carbonated/fizzy wine tends to fair better though as the CO2/gas displaces oxygen somewhat.

It does depend on the acidity. Low acidity white wines will degrade faster. High acidity white wines can last quite a while, especially when sealed air-tight. It isn't ideal, but it can be done.

Edit: Here is Martha Stewart's take:
"While lower-acid whites can last three to four days, high acidity will keep your wine fresh and vibrant for at least five days in the refrigerator. If you transfer the wine to an airtight container such as a Mason jar before refrigerating it, you can enjoy it for up to a whole week after it was opened."

How Long Does an Open Bottle of Wine Last—And How to Store It So You Can Enjoy It Later

Discover how long wine is good for after opening, including red and sparkling wine. Also, find tips on storing opened bottles to extend their lifespan.

www.marthastewart.com

 

[sandorski]

Haven't tried any can Wine, I would if I could buy individual cans, so one day. Have tried quite a few boxed wines though. Rule of thumb is that if you do the Math to determine the /bottle Price, you get a pretty good indication of the quality of wine. Here in BC, Canada $15cdn is a pretty sure bet that a bottle of wine is Good across the board. Even French wines, which have elevated Prices to start with, are Good albeit more noticeably rough on some edges than other wines. IME, when buying a Boxed Wine that comes in around that Price/bottle they are both Good and very convenient, although I prefer bottles so I can just spend the rest of my life trying different wines.

 

[sandorski]

It does depend on the acidity. Low acidity white wines will degrade faster. High acidity white wines can last quite a while, especially when sealed air-tight. It isn't ideal, but it can be done.

Ah ok. Until I bought a Starfrit Wine stopper vacuum thingy, I was keeping a journal(ish)on my daily experience drinking a bottle, usually 3 days, sometimes 4. I noticed that different wines faired better/worse than others but didn't know why. The Starfrit contraption has eliminated the need to track it anymore, although I suspect that some degradation still occurs.

 

[nakedfrog]

Stick it in the fridge as-is, and just chug it when you pull it back out. Or maybe just take the loss.

 

[deadlyapp]

the same type that can come in a box? (yes, we do that too! ...well, I don't know why I'm telling you this. even Europeans will sell and buy boxed wine).

But it's all pretty much table wine. Some of them are...well, actually not all that bad. Technically speaking, boxes (bags, really) and cans are much better for preserving wine than bottles are. At least, traditional cork bottles.

we all love corked bottles. We think it's special...but it's absolutely the worst way to preserve wine in any dependable way. I blame Big Cork (Really, the entire country of Portugal for propagating this myth. Where would they be without having cornered the world market on cork trees, after all?). Anyway, it's funny and a bit interesting that the absolute worst way to preserve the thing, is the one way that humans collectively accept as the only right way to do it. Everything else is gauche.

I digress.

I pick up canned and sometimes the individual 16 oz boxed wines for cooking purposes. Some are fairly decent, and good enough for cooking. While you don't want to cook with shit wine, it's far, far better to cook with middling wine (in a box or can), than it is to cook with day or week-old (or corked, for that matter) fancy wine.

Cork isn't necessarily to preserve wine - most well made wine is generally bottled at a point where it is not designed to be drank right away (eg cabernet/bordeaux, nebbiolo, tempranillo, etc) and the cork is designed to allow controlled amount of air over time to soften the wine. There are now good synthetic corks as well as engineered screwcaps that allow very specific air exchange, but also allow for controlled preservation. Some wines are designed to be drank very quickly and are made as such (generally the less expensive ones, but there are also very high end wines that are made to be drank "young").

 

[deadlyapp]

Most white wine lasts fairly well in the fridge. I haven't tried storing it in a can, but you could try putting a plastic film over the top and use a rubber band to keep it there. I would personally store it in a separate sealable container though. You can drink it without much flavor degradation for about a week. After that, use it for cooking wine.

Red wine: drink immediately or toss.

Red wine drink immediately or toss? Shit I'm glad I don't live by that motto. I've left higher end bottles on the counter uncorked for 4+ days in order to get enough air to really drink nicely. Most red wine I vacuseal after leaving it open for a couple of hours, or I pour half into a 375mL bottle screwcap and leave the rest in the main bottle. White wines I would never leave unsealed and would never drink after 3 days or so - they often lose too much of their expressive fruit. I have some chablis style chardonnays that I've left vacuum sealed for 5-6 days but they were really riding a fine line by then.

 

[Captante]

I've found that very strong red wine tends to hold up the longest once opened although it will lose some of its "character" after roughly 12 hours exposed to air.

Further once a potent red has degraded/soured to the point you really don't want to drink a glass of it (although it wouldn't hurt you) it still can make a fantastic marinade or a vinegar for salad-dressing.

 

[dullard]

Red wine drink immediately or toss? Shit I'm glad I don't live by that motto. I've left higher end bottles on the counter uncorked for 4+ days in order to get enough air to really drink nicely. Most red wine I vacuseal after leaving it open for a couple of hours, or I pour half into a 375mL bottle screwcap and leave the rest in the main bottle. White wines I would never leave unsealed and would never drink after 3 days or so - they often lose too much of their expressive fruit. I have some chablis style chardonnays that I've left vacuum sealed for 5-6 days but they were really riding a fine line by then.

I was speaking to someone buying canned wine and preserving an open can for the future. I'm fairly certain aeration was not even a concern or a possibility with what he has at hand.

Yes, high end red wines should breathe a bit. There is nothing about my comment that prevents proper aeration. But I will edit my post to clarify to drink immediately after aeration. It isn't like you have to chug it immediately after opening. Most reds just don't do well during storage after being opened if not taken care of properly.

 

[deadlyapp]

I was speaking to someone buying canned wine and preserving an open can for the future. I'm fairly certain aeration was not even a concern or a possibility with what he has at hand.

Yes, high end red wines should breathe a bit. There is nothing about my comment that prevents proper aeration. But I will edit my post to clarify to drink immediately after aeration. It isn't like you have to chug it immediately after opening. Most reds just don't do well during storage after being opened if not taken care of properly.

Lol yes I thought about that as well and almost went back to edit my post. I simply hope people don't buy canned red wine

 

[Captante]

Lol yes I thought about that as well and almost went back to edit my post. I simply hope people don't buy canned red wine

Shocking I know BUT I've had some pretty decent wine & beer from a can.

To be fair although canned craft-beer is common these days good canned wine is still relatively rare, however that has exactly zero to do with any negative impact on the wine itself due to being canned.

Rather it's the "idea" of a can being "beneath" your average wine-snob.



9 Premium Canned Wines to Try Right Now (liquor.com)

 

[Red Squirrel]

I can see cans actually working ok to preserve wine, but I guess it being out of the ordinary and a bottle feeling more "classy" it seems odd. But honestly if I could find canned wine here I'd try it, since it's a good portion if you want wine but don't want to open a whole bottle.

That said, this thread had made me thirsty for wine so I just opened a bottle.