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JEDIYoda

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All the above poster has proved is that Israel provides its third class citizens with some measure of food and health. We can say the same thing about US prisons also, would you therefore choose to be jailed?

Which may feed the body but not the Palestinian `soul that yearns to have a state dedicated to their interests, where they can be first class citizens again and have a sense of self determination.

After all many of these people had lands and possessions until Israel confiscated it for Israeli use. Israel does indeed use that tactic in Gaza and sometimes the West Bank.

But cheer up, remember the piasabird recommendation to with hold their water if they get uppity.

actually no they don`t.....you need not wax all gushy wushy on this.....

If this was true they would already have sat down with israel and approved one of the many offers that have been presented down through the years....so no it`s not true that the Palestinian `soul that yearns to have a state dedicated to their interests, where they can be first class citizens again and have a sense of self determination.

Nice words but threre is no factual basis foir what you are saying....

In fact it would seem that the palestinian sympathizers want what the palestinians as a people do not want...
 
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Noobtastic

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All the above poster has proved is that Israel provides its third class citizens with some measure of food and health. We can say the same thing about US prisons also, would you therefore choose to be jailed?

I really don't think this is a fair response. I was very explicit and meticulous in my post, so if you would be kind as to respond to it in full it would be appreciated.

I will note again you dubiously stated there water has "long" been "diverted to all of Israel.

Just to be clear. It was Israel that revolutionized the Palestinians access to water. The Middle East is in a major drought, and Israel has to import most of its water from Turkey.

Israel built de-salination plants for the Palestinians and gave water rights to Gaza during the Cairo agreements (later sabotaged by Arafat, of course.)

Israel water use per capita has decreased by over 150% since 1948, even though the population has increased by a factor of 5.

The Palestinian access to water has increased, and they use more water per capita than many Arab states.

How else could the Palestinians support an average life expectancy of 73 in the West Bank if they were dying of thirst?

If it weren't for Israel, Arafat's descedents would still be siphoning water and selling it back for profit. Gotta pay for those mansions in Paris after all.

Which may feed the body but not the Palestinian `soul that yearns to have a state dedicated to their interests, where they can be first class citizens again and have a sense of self determination.

This is just gibberish. The majority of Palestinians do not interact with an Israelis on a daily basis. Majority of Palestinians live under exclusive PLO control. They have their own government with their own laws.


After all many of these people had lands and possessions until Israel confiscated it for Israeli use. Israel does indeed use that tactic in Gaza and sometimes the West Bank.

The original Palestinians owned precious little land in Palestine as most was state-owned "mulk" property under Ottoman rule.

Furthermore, Arabs sold much of the privately held land...to the Jews. Even the Grand Mufti duplicitously unloaded his family's land to Jews while at the same time decrying the presence of Jews. You know, the same Grand Mufti that was with Hitler in Berlin during the 1948 War.

There was a saying back then that the Arabs would sell their own grandmothers if they could.


And all the land the original Jewish settlers built on was purchased from Palestinians at racist rates, sometimes 10x their worth by virtue of being Jewish.

Point is, native inhabitants with no title to property have no property rights. There are native Jewish inhabitants, except, they purchased land, have title and, thus, have property rights



But cheer up, remember the piasabird recommendation to with hold their water if they get uppity.

Even in the worst of times Israel has never held the Palestinians hostage. Israel continued to allow thousands of Palestinians to use their hospitals, even as pregnant Palestinians tried to abuse medical passes to blow themselves and fellow medical patients up.

In Gaza, Israel continues to deliver over 70 trucks of supplies, and thousands of Gazans continue to use Israeli hospitals every year.

Israel even built a field hospital during OCL, designed explicitly for wounded Palestinians (unheard of in modern war), and the Hamas and Fatah activists prohibited Palestinians from using the hospitals because they did not want them to be taken care of by the "Zionist occupier."

I guess wounded Palestinians are only good for propaganda and photo-ops.

Israel is never going to blockade their enemies as the USA and Britain did it Iraq, which killed about 1 million people. Israel is never going to blockade their enemies as Britain did to Germany during WWI, killing over 800,000.
Israel is never going to blockade their enemies, as the British and Arabs did to Jerusalem during the 1948 war, where over 2,000 Jews starved to death.

I'm assuming good faith Lemon, but you really are exaggerating the "ruthlessness" of Israel and their policies towards suicidal foes. Trust me, I wish Israel would start behaving like its critics.
 

werepossum

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Um, the Grand Mufti was in Berlin with Hitler in the 1948 war?

I bet your world has pretty colors . . .
 

Noobtastic

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Um, the Grand Mufti was in Berlin with Hitler in the 1948 war?

I bet your world has pretty colors . . .

HAHA!

Yes, you're right.

I met the civil war, sorry. It's late.

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JEDIYoda

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All the above poster has proved is that Israel provides its third class citizens with some measure of food and health. We can say the same thing about US prisons also, would you therefore choose to be jailed?

Which may feed the body but not the Palestinian `soul that yearns to have a state dedicated to their interests, where they can be first class citizens again and have a sense of self determination.

After all many of these people had lands and possessions until Israel confiscated it for Israeli use. Israel does indeed use that tactic in Gaza and sometimes the West Bank.

But cheer up, remember the piasabird recommendation to with hold their water if they get uppity.

You need to lighten up on the melodramatic crap.....thagt`s the best you can do to refute what IHateViruses is saying...yet you can`t and in your heart of hearts you know he is right....