Pregnant woman kicked out of bar

[Bateluer]

http://www.parenting.com/blogs/show...gcom/pregnant-woman-kicked-out-bar?cid=cnnrss

Heard this one before? A pregnant woman walks into a bar where… she gets kicked right back out. Actually, it’s no joke: 29-year-old expectant mom Michelle Lee, who’s eight months along, was asked by a bouncer to leave the Coach House, a restaurant/bar in Roselle, Illinois, reports the Chicago Tribune. (And for those wondering why a pregnant woman would be in a bar, Lee states that she was drinking water and catching up with friends.)

According to Lee, the bouncer told her that the bar would be liable if anything happened to her, like if a fight broke out and she got hurt. In response, Lee said, “That can happen anywhere. If I am going somewhere, I am taking responsibility.”

The Tribune spoke with civil rights experts and a spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union, all of whom agreed that it would be wrong (and illegal) to remove a pregnant woman from a location solely due to her pregnancy. Bar management has thus far declined comment, and Lee is considering speaking with a lawyer.

Moms, did you go to bars when you were pregnant?

Err, private business, right to refuse service to anyone? Not sure what the smoking laws are in Illinois, but usually there's a lot of smoking in bars. If you want to catch up with friends while pregnant, a bar might not be the best place lady.

 

[waggy]

its against the law to smoke in any bar in IL.

i have to agree with the bar. they should be able to refuse the business of anyone. i understand why they don't want a pregnant women in it.

but they are going to lose the nasty lawsuit.

 

[Scotteq]

/confused "...but I thought women went to bars to *get* pregnant... /confused

 

[Turin39789]

its against the law to smoke in any bar in IL.

i have to agree with the bar. they should be able to refuse the business of anyone. i understand why they don't want a pregnant women in it.

but they are going to lose the nasty lawsuit.

I don't understand why they don't want pregnant women there.

 

[digiram]

I agree that they should be free to kick her out, but I did take my pregnant wife with me to a club once to see a DJ that we were a fan of. They had no problems with letter her in, but if we were declined.. I would understand. She didn't drink of course, and I had a few. We both had a blast.

My daughter got rhythm to, must be the beats she was feeling in her mommy's tummy.. lol

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I don't understand why they don't want pregnant women there.

Drinking while pregnant can make the baby a homicidal monster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_syndrome#Primary_disabilities

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It is of course possible that this a fishing expedition for an out of court settlement. Ill wait for the court testimony.

 

[Cobalt]

I live in a town next to Roselle, IL and the nickname for that bar around here is the "Roach House". Really surprising they would care about something like that over there...

 

[OutHouse]

Drinking while pregnant can make the baby a homicidal monster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_alcohol_syndrome#Primary_disabilities

she was drinking water.

 

[OutHouse]

http://www.parenting.com/blogs/show...gcom/pregnant-woman-kicked-out-bar?cid=cnnrss



Err, private business, right to refuse service to anyone? Not sure what the smoking laws are in Illinois, but usually there's a lot of smoking in bars. If you want to catch up with friends while pregnant, a bar might not be the best place lady.

i can understand the point of private (but a public establishment) business and refuse service.... BUT on the other hand it was discrimination.

if it was a restaurant that requires formal attire and you show up in bluejeans and a metallica tee-shirt they can tell you to leave. but if you are pregnant/black/disabled and show up in formal attire they cant ask you to leave because you are pregnant/black/disabled simply because you one or all of those things. the bouncer clearly stated that she had to leave because she was preggers and that is flat out discrimination.

 

[bamacre]

What it be discrimination if they refused to sell her alcohol?

 

[Bateluer]

Some bars cater to a certain 'clientele'. Not always the type of people you want a pregnant woman around. I'm assuming this bar may have been a 'rougher' establishment because they had a bouncer.

Again, I'm not sure they'd lose a lawsuit. Its a private business, they made a call to refuse service to her on the grounds that they didn't want to be liable if anything happened to her baby. The woman could have had one drink, gave birth to a child with disabilities or other abnormalities, or could have been injured in a fight, etc. Well within their rights to refuse entry, IMO.

Various clubs refuse service to patrons not adhering to their dress codes(physical attractiveness) all the time.

 

[OutHouse]

Some bars cater to a certain 'clientele'. Not always the type of people you want a pregnant woman around. I'm assuming this bar may have been a 'rougher' establishment because they had a bouncer.

Again, I'm not sure they'd lose a lawsuit. Its a private business, they made a call to refuse service to her on the grounds that they didn't want to be liable if anything happened to her baby. The woman could have had one drink, gave birth to a child with disabilities or other abnormalities, or could have been injured in a fight, etc. Well within their rights to refuse entry, IMO.

Various clubs refuse service to patrons not adhering to their dress codes(physical attractiveness) all the time.

not the same as refusing service to a specific population IE. pregnant women. that is discrimination.

 

[Fingolfin269]

This is pretty stupid. I'm all for businesses to be able to do what they want in regards to limiting their customers but where do we draw the line? Is this only okay because it's a 'bar'? What if it had been a Bailey's/Fox & Hound/Dave & Busters type place? Buffalo Wild Wings?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

she was drinking water.

Does that change the fact that I answered the question? Are you incapable of figuring out why a bar owner might respond as he or she did given the nature of the establishment?

 

[Perknose]

What it be discrimination if they refused to sell her alcohol?

Wow, interesting point. :hmm:

 

[bamacre]

Wow, interesting point. :hmm:

I don't think so. I think the answer is obvious to anyone with half a brain.

 

[soundforbjt]

Simple defense, Her child was under-age !

 

[blackangst1]

not the same as refusing service to a specific population IE. pregnant women. that is discrimination.

No, its not. Pregnancy is not a protected...thing.

 

[YoungGun21]

I think the more important question is: was she single?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I think the more important question is: was she single?

'cause you know she puts out!

YEAH!

snooch to the nooch


ps


Can someone make a cogent argument for why this kind of discrimination is a bad thing?

Yea, no didn't think so.

 

[theeedude]

“That can happen anywhere. If I am going somewhere, I am taking responsibility.”

That's what they all say until stuff happens, then they sue the place and expect it to take responsibility.

 

[Exterous]

“That can happen anywhere. If I am going somewhere, I am taking responsibility.”

That's what they all say until stuff happens, then they sue the place and expect it to take responsibility.

This.

Should have just given her so many legal documents and waivers to go through that she got fed up and left on her own

 

[dmcowen674]

I live in a town next to Roselle, IL and the nickname for that bar around here is the "Roach House". Really surprising they would care about something like that over there...

Are you in Hanover Park?

Seems like all the towns outside Chicago here make the news a lot for a lot of weird shit.

 

[f4phantom2500]

Simple defense, Her child was under-age !

yeah, all they have to do is claim that life begins at inception and that the child was not old enough to get in.