Pregnant teacher fired. Sues.

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Teri James, Pregnant Woman Allegedly Fired For Premarital Sex, Sues Christian School

A former employee at a Christian college has enlisted the help of high-profile attorney Gloria Allred to sue a California school that allegedly fired her for engaging in premarital sex, NBC's "Today" reports. In a bizarre twist, the school reportedly went on to offer the pregnant woman's job to her then-fiance.

Teri James, 29, told the news outlet that she did sign a two-page contract with San Diego Christian College that included a provision agreeing not to engage in "sexually immoral behavior including premarital sex."

"I needed a job in this economy and so I never thought that anything would happen," James explained to "Today."

But James said she was humiliated after being pulled into her supervisor's office last fall, where she was asked if she was pregnant and then was let go. After James lost her job, she claims the school offered a position to her now-husband, even though they were aware he'd had sex before getting married, too.



Ok, I can understand that's your agreement that you can't have premarital sex. But then offering the job to her now husband is a wtf moment.
 

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Premarital sex and Christianity does not mix well. o_O

Premarital sex – why are Christians so strongly against it?

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Azraele

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After James lost her job, she claims the school offered a position to her now-husband, even though they were aware he'd had sex before getting married, too.

This is probably what the trial will focus on.
 

GagHalfrunt

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This is probably what the trial will focus on.

Although he did not breach contract, she did. The plaintiff will focus on that point while the defense will focus on the fact that her contract did not prohibit premarital sex BEFORE employment, only DURING employment.
 

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Although he did not breach contract, she did. The plaintiff will focus on that point while the defense will focus on the fact that her contract did not prohibit premarital sex BEFORE employment, only DURING employment.

Fuckin' lawyers(and Christians). Either it's right, or it's wrong. Christian doctrine says that per-marital sex is wrong, so they were correct in firing her. Using legal weasel words to say the partner wasn't employed by them, and therefore didn't break the contract is a load of shit. Either he's upstanding and moral, and therefore allowed to teach, or he isn't. "God" doesn't follow the contracts of humans, and using human law to skirt "God's" law misses the whole fuckin' point...

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Although he did not breach contract, she did. The plaintiff will focus on that point while the defense will focus on the fact that her contract did not prohibit premarital sex BEFORE employment, only DURING employment.

This

The school will win. Case closed
 
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Although he did not breach contract, she did. The plaintiff will focus on that point while the defense will focus on the fact that her contract did not prohibit premarital sex BEFORE employment, only DURING employment.

That relies heavily on whether that clause is legally enforceable.
 

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If that is what the contract says, then this school needs better contracts. I think they meant sexually immoral behavior "inclusive of" premarital sex, so that premarital sex is part of the whole sexually immoral range of activities. The way this reads, they should have to prove that she was engaged in some sexually immoral behavior of which premarital sex was a part.

Second, how do they know about the premarital sex? If they base it on the fact that she's pregnant, they are a Christian school that would have to admit that they would have fired Christ's mom.
 

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She hired Gloria Allred so I must support the school's position.

-KeithP
 

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...Second, how do they know about the premarital sex? If they base it on the fact that she's pregnant, they are a Christian school that would have to admit that they would have fired Christ's mom.


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And a great post Mr. Waveform98.

Ugh, Gloria Allred.
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Only way she wins is if the court finds the contract unconscionable. Which it won't (unfortunately).

So many barriers to her even coming remotely close to winning here, not the least of which is Gloria Allred being her lawyer. We can add contract law and the court's positions on avoiding diddling with religion issues.
 

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Fuckin' lawyers(and Christians). Either it's right, or it's wrong. Christian doctrine says that per-marital sex is wrong, so they were correct in firing her. Using legal weasel words to say the partner wasn't employed by them, and therefore didn't break the contract is a load of shit. Either he's upstanding and moral, and therefore allowed to teach, or he isn't. "God" doesn't follow the contracts of humans, and using human law to skirt "God's" law misses the whole fuckin' point...

A teacher at the school is required to be upstanding and moral while employed by the school. They are not required to have been upstanding and moral there entire life.

I also have to wonder about the timing of his hiring. Did he go in for an interview after they fired his gf for getting knocked up?
 

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I also have to wonder about the timing of his hiring. Did he go in for an interview after they fired his gf for getting knocked up?


There was no hiring. While he may or may not have been offered a job, he does not work there. So either he only interviewed for it or was offered and turned it down. However, his hiring is irrelevant to her case. SHE had a contract, she breached it. He was never under contract and was not bound by one. And I don't think the school would legally be allowed to ask about his sex life prior to employing him. They can only mandate behavior of employees, the sexual preferences of prospective employees are off limits. There's been quite a furor over that in the NFL combines this year as teams have been trying to ask sort of vague questions about that so they don't get Te'o-ed.
 
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She hired Gloria Allred so I must support the school's position.

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GA is probably working pro bono.

Not like I'm a big fan of the schools actions here, but if the woman in question were smart enough to check out her lawyer first, she probably wouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place.
 
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She wins because it's illegal to discriminate based on gender.

This is based on pre-marital sex, not gender. It would be gender discrimination if they said men can have pre marital sex and women can't...it's not gender discrimination when the policy is applied to everyone but it's easier for one sex to get caught.

Also, when is the last TRIAL you guys have seen Alred?? She's good for raising publicity and making a scene, but that's about all...
 
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GA is probably working pro bono.

Not like I'm a big fan of the schools actions here, but if the woman in question were smart enough to check out her lawyer first, she probably wouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place.

Where do you get this from?
 
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A teacher at the school is required to be upstanding and moral while employed by the school. They are not required to have been upstanding and moral there entire life.

I also have to wonder about the timing of his hiring. Did he go in for an interview after they fired his gf for getting knocked up?

Unless the employer requires them too and they agree...

I know religion is a hot topic issue with ATOT, so analogize with something else: would it be illegal for an employer to have a clause that says the employee cannot consume alcohol? I don't see why it would be.
 

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This is based on pre-marital sex, not gender. It would be gender discrimination if they said men can have pre marital sex and women can't...it's not gender discrimination when the policy is applied to everyone but it's easier for one sex to get caught.

Also, when is the last TRIAL you guys have seen Alred?? She's good for raising publicity and making a scene, but that's about all...

I agree with you in that this is most likely the approach of the defense.