Predictions for Trump's COVID-19 address tonight Wed Mar 11, 2020

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JSt0rm

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most of us knew this guy was gonna fuck up anything serious. Its almost like the chuds thought being president would be easy.

And where are the chuds? I really want to know if they still think dump is doing a good job.
 
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IronWing

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All Trump had to do to come out looking good in this was to keep his mouth shut except for repeating the simple messages developed by government epidemiologists and offering reassurances. That was the totality of his needful involvement. He blew it.
 
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Paratus

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[ If condition [Democrat in WH] then:

“Today is a victory for all Americans – for the security of our middle class, for the health of our seniors, and for economic growth and job creation. The American people spoke out clearly and, thanks to President Obama's leadership, 160 million Americans will continue to receive their payroll tax cut – nearly $40 per paycheck in the pockets of the average family. I salute the work of the unified House Democratic caucus on behalf of the American people.

[ Else:

"In light of reports that the Trump Administration is considering new tax cuts for major corporations impacted by the coronavirus, Leader Schumer and I released a statement calling on the Administration to prioritize the health and safety of American workers and their families over corporate interests,"

End If
“Accuse the other side that which you are guilt of”

Hmm where have I seen this behavior before?
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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All Trump had to do to come out looking good in this was to keep his mouth shut except for repeating the simple messages developed by government epidemiologists and offering reassurances. That was the totality of his needful involvement. He blew it.
Yup, I've been thinking about this over the last few weeks, Trump could have absolutely nailed a re-election by just being quiet, and taking this somewhat seriously. He would have been heralded as the damn savior of America.

Of course, if he were capable of that, he wouldn't be Donald Trump.
 

Jhhnn

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Nancy Pelosi made a statement saying the payroll tax was a great idea and saying "today is a victory for all Americans."

Oh wait, that was when Obama did it. She'll no doubt make a complete 180 in her view now that the opposition party is in the WH and no doubt the GOP will likewise completely change their stance on it. Not to mention probably 99% of the posters here on ATPN as well. Basically every single question in Washington is 100% driven by purely partisan concerns nowadays.



I suggest you read your own links before posting them. From your second one-

If the mere suggestion that a recession might threaten their own election prospects is enough to send Republicans rushing to embrace an economic stimulus tool they opposed during the Obama years, that would be blatantly hypocritical and nakedly political.

Don't let your animosity towards Dems color your judgement so badly.
 

glenn1

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I suggest you read your own links before posting them. From your second one-


Don't let your animosity towards Dems color your judgement so badly.

I already said in the post of mine you quoted that GOP will do the exact same thing. It's transparently hypocritical and #bothsides is completely appropriate here. You could literally write a script to cover 99% of all political questions being discussed nowadays and it will correctly predict the party's positions based upon who's in power at that moment. It's not "animosity towards Dems" it's simple observation of reality.

Oh wait, that was when Obama did it. She'll no doubt make a complete 180 in her view now that the opposition party is in the WH and no doubt the GOP will likewise completely change their stance on it.
 

SMOGZINN

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Nancy Pelosi made a statement saying the payroll tax was a great idea and saying "today is a victory for all Americans."

Oh wait, that was when Obama did it. She'll no doubt make a complete 180 in her view now that the opposition party is in the WH and no doubt the GOP will likewise completely change their stance on it. Not to mention probably 99% of the posters here on ATPN as well. Basically every single question in Washington is 100% driven by purely partisan concerns nowadays.



Could you be more dishonest? The 2011 payroll tax cut extension just continued the tax cuts put in place by Bush, and was a 2% reduction in payroll taxes not 100%, and was the bill included unemployment insurance, and the Medicare physician fee fix. Trump's plan would increase the national debt by nearly a Trillion dollars just in one year, and would have minimal impact on the average American.

most of us knew this guy was gonna fuck up anything serious. Its almost like the chuds thought being president would be easy.

And where are the chuds? I really want to know if they still think dump is doing a good job.
They voted to burn it down and are now complaining that it is too hot.
 

glenn1

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Could you be more dishonest? The 2011 payroll tax cut extension just continued the tax cuts put in place by Bush, and was a 2% reduction in payroll taxes not 100%, and was the bill included unemployment insurance, and the Medicare physician fee fix. Trump's plan would increase the national debt by nearly a Trillion dollars just in one year, and would have minimal impact on the average American.


They voted to burn it down and are now complaining that it is too hot.

Urge your Congress Critter to vote against it then. Regressive taxes don't bother me in the slightest as it allows the progressiveness of the income tax and capital gains tax to be kept at a minimum.
 

SMOGZINN

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Urge your Congress Critter to vote against it then. Regressive taxes don't bother me in the slightest as it allows the progressiveness of the income tax and capital gains tax to be kept at a minimum.

I just want to know when the hell did Republicans suddenly become the 'why worry about how to pay for it party' party?
 

glenn1

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I just want to know when the hell did Republicans suddenly become the 'why worry about how to pay for it party' party?

Fiscal restraint is dead and voters reject any politician who suggests it. The only time it ever happens now is when (D) is POTUS and the (R) holds Congress, otherwise it's a non-factor. We're all Keynesians now.
 
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most of us knew this guy was gonna fuck up anything serious. Its almost like the chuds thought being president would be easy.

And where are the chuds? I really want to know if they still think dump is doing a good job.

They're busy making threads trying to blame Mexican immigrants for coronavirus because well after the total and complete shitshow that Turmp is dumping in their diapers (he's so amazing he even shits their pants for them) they only have racism to fall back on.
 

Jhhnn

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Fiscal restraint is dead and voters reject any politician who suggests it. The only time it ever happens now is when (D) is POTUS and the (R) holds Congress, otherwise it's a non-factor. We're all Keynesians now.

The 2017 tax cuts were counter-Keynesian. The whole 40 year flimflam of trickledown Reaganomics has been counter-Keynesian.
 

TheVrolok

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[ If condition [Democrat in WH] then:

“Today is a victory for all Americans – for the security of our middle class, for the health of our seniors, and for economic growth and job creation. The American people spoke out clearly and, thanks to President Obama's leadership, 160 million Americans will continue to receive their payroll tax cut – nearly $40 per paycheck in the pockets of the average family. I salute the work of the unified House Democratic caucus on behalf of the American people.

[ Else:

"In light of reports that the Trump Administration is considering new tax cuts for major corporations impacted by the coronavirus, Leader Schumer and I released a statement calling on the Administration to prioritize the health and safety of American workers and their families over corporate interests,"

End If
Wait, you really don't get the insanely obvious and stark difference, do you?
 

sportage

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Again... Fox News today, some expert :rolleyes: claiming Trump was just getting up to steam on his Coronavirus response. Comparing this administration’s Coronavirus screw ups to that of GW Bush and hurricane Katrina screw ups. IT TAKES TIME, this :rolleyes: expert :rolleyes: suggested.
I thought, OR.....
Maybe it’s better to elect competent presidents in the first place, ya think ???
 
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The 2017 tax cuts were counter-Keynesian. The whole 40 year flimflam of trickledown Reaganomics has been counter-Keynesian.

I can only imagine how stupid he's going if he's seriously trying to argue that supply side bullshit is Keynesian.

I'm not sure if they're actively intentionally trying to be stupidly wrong on every single topic, but its astounding how willing they are to be so profoundly ignorant that they literally don't understand basic facts that they're trying to argue and then figuratively shitting all over themselves at every opportunity.
 

Indus

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It is more than clear that Donald Trump has lied more than any other US president in history in the same time frame as he has served so far. Anyone who says he doesn't lie is not able to process reality properly - and this is not a Trump Derangement Syndrome statement - this is a fact easily proven by reviewing clips of his statements, rallies, news conferences etc.

The problem is when he lies and it puts people at risk or hurts people. For example after the Iranian missile attacks on the US Iraq bases, he stated that the only injuries sustained were "mild headaches". In actual fact these troops suffered from mild to moderate brain damage from the explosive concussions they were close to. So those personnel are deemed by the president to not have any serious problems.

He is also contradicting his top medical advisors on the facts of the epidemic and preventative measures.

Seth Myers has a great summary of this:


I don't blame him for the epidemic, but I do know he is NOT handling this situation well. Another fact is in 2018 he dismantled the pandemic readiness structures put in place by President Obama, which likely would have given the US a more effective response to the crisis.

There are about 333 million people in the US, estimates are that between 30-70% of the population will be infected, and of those 3% will die. That means on the low end there will be 99.9 million infected with about 3 million deaths, on the high end 233 million infected with about 7 million deaths. If this happens in a short time frame, hospitals will be overwhelmed, businesses will not be able to operate effectively.

And we have President Trump advising people to come to work sick, and that the problem will go away soon - no need to avoid crowds.

One other thing, if 20-30% of the population have no insurance, they will not get tested, they will come to work sick and the 70-80% of the population with insurance coverage will be infected by them.

So does universal medical coverage sound better when there is a pandemic? I think so!
 
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WH press secretary said Trump had almost no contact with the man in this picture so him getting tested is not necessary. Remember don't believe what you see :)

What, Turmp doesn't even know that mother fucker, never met him or even seen him in his entire life! That guy is a total fucking loser, Turmp prefers people that don't get Coronavirus! I'm sure that'll totally convince the Coronavirus test that he's not infected. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to find out he's immune to disease, having cultivated a slime that covers his entire body and traps all foreign particles where they kill themselves when confronted with his loose brain cells repeating nonsense "bigliest, big giant hands, not tiny hands, fake news, lock her up!"
 

Panino Manino

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WH press secretary said Trump had almost no contact with the man in this picture so him getting tested is not necessary. Remember don't believe what you see :)
Dude, one of Bolsonaro's son was there last week, I think, and he had contact with people that are also suspicious of having the virus. It was talked during the weekend that he may had become a vector.
But back to the subject here, the gov is saying that Bolsonaro's result comes friday, but this should be for the more accurate test. The results from a primary test must be ready by now. It's highly probable that this first test was positive and the friday result of just the confirmation.
There's a real possibility that he and people with whom he met, even Trump, is infected.
 

ponyo

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Dude, one of Bolsonaro's son was there last week, I think, and he had contact with people that are also suspicious of having the virus. It was talked during the weekend that he may had become a vector.
But back to the subject here, the gov is saying that Bolsonaro's result comes friday, but this should be for the more accurate test. The results from a primary test must be ready by now. It's highly probable that this first test was positive and the friday result of just the confirmation.
There's a real possibility that he and people with whom he met, even Trump, is infected.
I don't normally watch Trump's speech but last night I tuned in because of what's going on in the financial markets, and he didn't look all that well. I don't know if he was just stressed but he looked little ill.