Pre-production Camaro in the nude

[Ktulu]

http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/ar...01/for_the_camaro.html

http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/images/camaro_fl.jpg

The pics a little small but I would say it is pretty damn near the concept model, don't touch a thing.

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Here's the interior, I'm a little undecided on it.

New interior pix

New engine bay shots and lit up guauges.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

i'm really not digging the interior. =/

 

[JulesMaximus]

I like the exterior but that interior looks like crap. Seriously, it looks like the design team just threw up on a drawing board and that's the interior. I thought the whole idea behind this car was a modern retro Camaro? To me that means get rid of the bad things from the late 1960s, ie. weight, shoddy build quality, poor brakes, mushy handling, and cheap interiors.

It looks like they've addressed everything except the interior...which they lifted from a 1970 Pantera.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like the exterior but that interior looks like crap. Seriously, it looks like the design team just threw up on a drawing board and that's the interior. I thought the whole idea behind this car was a modern retro Camaro? To me that means get rid of the bad things from the late 1960s, ie. weight, shoddy build quality, poor brakes, mushy handling, and cheap interiors.

It looks like they've addressed everything except the interior...which they lifted from a 1970 Pantera.

they addressed weight?

 

[AdamK47]

I've lost interest in this car since getting a GTO and C6. The car looks very similar to the concept except for the obvious things that needed changing. Wheel size, ride height, and mirrors are the easy to spot changes. The radio controls appear to be inspired from a video game controller and look awkward. I like the analog gauges and even the placement. The seats look very similar to that of the C6. It seems like there isn't enough width to support better seats just as in the case of the C6. That?s one thing on the GTO I like over the C6. The seats are big, comfy, and of better quality. I'd rather have a two door version of the Commodore... if they ever make one.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like the exterior but that interior looks like crap. Seriously, it looks like the design team just threw up on a drawing board and that's the interior. I thought the whole idea behind this car was a modern retro Camaro? To me that means get rid of the bad things from the late 1960s, ie. weight, shoddy build quality, poor brakes, mushy handling, and cheap interiors.

It looks like they've addressed everything except the interior...which they lifted from a 1970 Pantera.

they addressed weight?

Probably not. I can always hope right? :laugh:

 

[rh71]

Looks like there's More Than Meets The Eye.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like the exterior but that interior looks like crap. Seriously, it looks like the design team just threw up on a drawing board and that's the interior. I thought the whole idea behind this car was a modern retro Camaro? To me that means get rid of the bad things from the late 1960s, ie. weight, shoddy build quality, poor brakes, mushy handling, and cheap interiors.

It looks like they've addressed everything except the interior...which they lifted from a 1970 Pantera.

they addressed weight?

Probably not. I can always hope right? :laugh:

A late-60's Camaro weighs the same (or less, with the smaller engines) as an IS250.

 

[LegendKiller]

How 10-years ago. The massive off-shoot tube with plastic chrome things with the two front guages suck. The light dials on the left side look cheap. The radio and other controls look, as somebody else said, like directional controls for a Genesis. The remainder looks cheap, bulky, and un-elegent. I do like the analog dials. However, the air vents look stupid.

Domestic car companies still have a ways to go.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like the exterior but that interior looks like crap. Seriously, it looks like the design team just threw up on a drawing board and that's the interior. I thought the whole idea behind this car was a modern retro Camaro? To me that means get rid of the bad things from the late 1960s, ie. weight, shoddy build quality, poor brakes, mushy handling, and cheap interiors.

It looks like they've addressed everything except the interior...which they lifted from a 1970 Pantera.

they addressed weight?

Probably not. I can always hope right? :laugh:

A late-60's Camaro weighs the same (or less, with the smaller engines) as an IS250.

A late-60's Camaro doesn't handle or brake as well as an IS250 though. Let's not turn this into a debate on cars that I own or would like to own...please.

Tell you what, if they can keep the weight down to 3500lbs and kill all thoughts of producing it with that interior I'd be interested in at least test driving one. I'd also like a decent steering rack that offers good communication and fade free brakes.

 

[iamwiz82]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like the exterior but that interior looks like crap. Seriously, it looks like the design team just threw up on a drawing board and that's the interior. I thought the whole idea behind this car was a modern retro Camaro? To me that means get rid of the bad things from the late 1960s, ie. weight, shoddy build quality, poor brakes, mushy handling, and cheap interiors.

It looks like they've addressed everything except the interior...which they lifted from a 1970 Pantera.

they addressed weight?

Probably not. I can always hope right? :laugh:

A late-60's Camaro weighs the same (or less, with the smaller engines) as an IS250.

A late-60's Camaro doesn't handle or brake as well as an IS250 though. Let's not turn this into a debate on cars that I own or would like to own...please.

Tell you what, if they can keep the weight down to 3500lbs and kill all thoughts of producing it with that interior I'd be interested in at least test driving one. I'd also like a decent steering rack that offers good communication and fade free brakes.

I think it looks like an abortion too, and would not planning on buying one. However, that doesn't make what you said incorrect.

Everything that I have read says that the 09 Camaro will be around 3,400lbs. Not bad, considering a Civic SI is creeping up past the 3,000lb mark.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

That interior is all too reminiscent of GM's bad old days (the 1980s). It looks like crap. Here's hoping that it's just a stand-in, because by all accounts they have made great strides with the new Malibu.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like the exterior but that interior looks like crap. Seriously, it looks like the design team just threw up on a drawing board and that's the interior. I thought the whole idea behind this car was a modern retro Camaro? To me that means get rid of the bad things from the late 1960s, ie. weight, shoddy build quality, poor brakes, mushy handling, and cheap interiors.

It looks like they've addressed everything except the interior...which they lifted from a 1970 Pantera.

they addressed weight?

Probably not. I can always hope right? :laugh:

A late-60's Camaro weighs the same (or less, with the smaller engines) as an IS250.

A late-60's Camaro doesn't handle or brake as well as an IS250 though. Let's not turn this into a debate on cars that I own or would like to own...please.

Tell you what, if they can keep the weight down to 3500lbs and kill all thoughts of producing it with that interior I'd be interested in at least test driving one. I'd also like a decent steering rack that offers good communication and fade free brakes.

I think it looks like an abortion too, and would not planning on buying one. However, that doesn't make what you said incorrect.

Everything that I have read says that the 09 Camaro will be around 3,400lbs. Not bad, considering a Civic SI is creeping up past the 3,000lb mark.

Maybe the V6 model.

If the SS with the top end V8 only weighs 3,400 lbs and has a LS7 or LS9, and under $35,000, and availability not "Barrett Jackson only", then it's game over for everyone else.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I like the exterior but that interior looks like crap. Seriously, it looks like the design team just threw up on a drawing board and that's the interior. I thought the whole idea behind this car was a modern retro Camaro? To me that means get rid of the bad things from the late 1960s, ie. weight, shoddy build quality, poor brakes, mushy handling, and cheap interiors.

It looks like they've addressed everything except the interior...which they lifted from a 1970 Pantera.

they addressed weight?

Probably not. I can always hope right? :laugh:

A late-60's Camaro weighs the same (or less, with the smaller engines) as an IS250.

A late-60's Camaro doesn't handle or brake as well as an IS250 though. Let's not turn this into a debate on cars that I own or would like to own...please.

Tell you what, if they can keep the weight down to 3500lbs and kill all thoughts of producing it with that interior I'd be interested in at least test driving one. I'd also like a decent steering rack that offers good communication and fade free brakes.

I think it looks like an abortion too, and would not planning on buying one. However, that doesn't make what you said incorrect.

Everything that I have read says that the 09 Camaro will be around 3,400lbs. Not bad, considering a Civic SI is creeping up past the 3,000lb mark.

not my civic coupe! 2800 lbs

 

[imported_K3N]

sheesh i guess this only comes in automatic like the dodge challenger.

 

[Throckmorton]

It looks awesome, but I agree with everyone else about the interior. Before looking at the pics I thought AT was just being whiny as usual... But jeez it looks straight outta the 90s.

Why didn't they turn this into a Trans Am to play KITT?

 

[fbrdphreak]

You people are really stupid. There is no way that is anything close to the final interior. Why would they spend money putting a final interior into a camouflaged test mule? Why would GM use something like that in their next hit car, when you can see what they can do with the CTS & Malibu.

No, that is not the final interior. Jesus christ

 

[overst33r]

I hope the ones criticizing the build quality of the interior do realize this is a mock up...

edit: ^^ beat me to it

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
You people are really stupid. There is no way that is anything close to the final interior. Why would they spend money putting a final interior into a camouflaged test mule? Why would GM use something like that in their next hit car, when you can see what they can do with the CTS & Malibu.

No, that is not the final interior. Jesus christ

Why would they make a fake interior just for a test mule? Obviously it's not finished, but the design is just ugly and 90s. I can totally see GM putting a crappy interior in the Camaro out of fear that it would cannibalize sales from their upmarket models otherwise.

Unless you can find and post pics of what car that interior is from, I'm going to assume that's the Camaro's real interior... Otherwise they wasted a lot of money designing a fake interior to fool people on forums.

 

[Fenixgoon]

the interior is definitely hideous (and i could probably be president of the "AT Anti dashboard-stroker brigade"). i hope that's just because its a preproduction model.

 

[Tiamat]

interior needs work :/ Its a bit shoddy looking...

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
You people are really stupid. There is no way that is anything close to the final interior. Why would they spend money putting a final interior into a camouflaged test mule? Why would GM use something like that in their next hit car, when you can see what they can do with the CTS & Malibu.

No, that is not the final interior. Jesus christ

Why would they make a fake interior just for a test mule? Obviously it's not finished, but the design is just ugly and 90s. I can totally see GM putting a crappy interior in the Camaro out of fear that it would cannibalize sales from their upmarket models otherwise.

Unless you can find and post pics of what car that interior is from, I'm going to assume that's the Camaro's real interior... Otherwise they wasted a lot of money designing a fake interior to fool people on forums.

I doubt the interior is "fake", just not likely to be even close to production in its current configuration. The side vents don't even match the center vents. Most of the dash isn't even completed in the pics, and the off center steering wheel mount ain't gonna make production either.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
You people are really stupid. There is no way that is anything close to the final interior. Why would they spend money putting a final interior into a camouflaged test mule? Why would GM use something like that in their next hit car, when you can see what they can do with the CTS & Malibu.

No, that is not the final interior. Jesus christ

Why would they make a fake interior just for a test mule? Obviously it's not finished, but the design is just ugly and 90s. I can totally see GM putting a crappy interior in the Camaro out of fear that it would cannibalize sales from their upmarket models otherwise.

Unless you can find and post pics of what car that interior is from, I'm going to assume that's the Camaro's real interior... Otherwise they wasted a lot of money designing a fake interior to fool people on forums.

I doubt the interior is "fake", just not likely to be even close to production in its current configuration. The side vents don't even match the center vents. Most of the dash isn't even completed in the pics, and the off center steering wheel mount ain't gonna make production either.

Bingo. They did whatever was cheapest to have the final mechanical product on the road for testing.

 

[DarkThinker]

You would have to be awful at designing and producing cars if you can make a car as well known as a Camaro fail. I like the exterior, however it could have used a some curvature on the side panels, but that's fine, the interior is a mockup, OK that's fine too.
However if the production car sucks too, I would have %100 lost any faith in the American industry. Because as much of an American car detester that I am, the Camaro is the only American car I have ever longed for seeing and driving in person to get a feel for, if they screw it up that's it for me.

 

[GoatMonkey]

Where are the interior pictures you're talking about? Is this it?

http://www.thechevroletcamaro....aro_convertible_04.jpg

The page linked by the OP doesn't seem to have any interior pictures that I see.